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Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by unethical_ban » Tue, Aug 22, 2023, 7:50 PM UTC

varispeed wrote: post #258

htk wrote: post #19

Asahi and Alyssa are the titans of reverse engineering. Their work is pretty unbelievable. I would bet Apple is planning to hire them, or has tried already and they refused.

Employment is a poor proposition. Typically employees make poor money in comparison to what kind of profit they generate, that especially applies to IT. Anyone with a talent, should rather seek to incorporate and sell their services at fair price. Unfortunately in some countries, big corporations managed to lobby governments to put a stop to that.

If you consider large employers as labor brokers, it makes more sense that someone accepts the reduction in potential earnings for easier access to labor demand.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Aug 22, 2023, 7:50 PM UTC

blackoil wrote: post #182

vuln wrote: post #105

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> Oh, and the facial recognition unlock is the best. This is scary as fuck. Combined with all the telemetry and tracking M$ is now doing without care from within its operating system. Windows and Android are subsidized data collection applications which run on subsidized hardware. Simple as.

LOL, How would you unlock iPhone?

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Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by AceJohnny2 » Tue, Aug 22, 2023, 7:54 PM UTC

olddustytrail wrote: post #279

ajdude wrote: post #228

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I love what they're doing, but last time I clicked a link for asahilinux on hacker news I was taken to a pop up that specifically said that readers from Hacker News are not welcomed on their site and couldn't read their content.

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That's because HN has since removed referral headers on links, to work around this specific kind of blockage.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by samtheprogram » Tue, Aug 22, 2023, 7:56 PM UTC

ta8645 wrote: post #237

Have been eying a MacBook Air 15-in (M2), and wondering on the possibility of running Linux on it. Anyone had success, or failure, on doing this themselves? And, how hard will it be to port this M1 GPU driver to the M2?

Pretty sure sleep still doesn't work, unless the Asahi wiki FAQ / Wiki is out of date. Bit of a deal breaker for me until then.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by unethical_ban » Tue, Aug 22, 2023, 7:57 PM UTC

olddustytrail wrote: post #279

ajdude wrote: post #228

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I love what they're doing, but last time I clicked a link for asahilinux on hacker news I was taken to a pop up that specifically said that readers from Hacker News are not welcomed on their site and couldn't read their content.

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This is a profoundly rude comment.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by bookmark1231 » Tue, Aug 22, 2023, 8:03 PM UTC

softfalcon wrote: post #197

I wonder if support for OpenGL, Vulkan, etc will improve now that Apple is partnering with nVidia, Adobe, Autodesk, Microsoft, etc around the OpenUSD rendering/animation/CAD/3D-scene format? Considering the whole schtick of OpenUSD is "one file format that renders consistently everywhere" (paraphrasing), I would be surprised if Apple doesn't use it as a means to cement more 3D software vendors into macOS land. It's r…

I don’t think that’s the shtick behind OpenUSD. It’s not a transmission format like glTF, so the intent is not to get consistent rendering but rather to standardize intermediate graphics representations so that software that works on 3D scenes (unreal, Maya etc) can represent all of their workflow in USD and get consistent interop.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by als0 » Tue, Aug 22, 2023, 8:03 PM UTC

gumby wrote: post #286

JohnBooty wrote: post #281

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Then as they clawed their way back from the precipice, they started "adding value" again. I don't know if I can agree. On the software side, MacOS supports all those things. On the hardware side, it's still (edit: almost) nothing but industry-standard ports.

I didn't say they necessarily denigrated the open formats but added and preferred their own proprietary image, audio etc formats as they gained market strength. On the hardware side I'm delighted by Apple's USB C/TB push (and Apple contributed a lot to those standards, esp based on what they had learned with Lightning) but note they revived the proprietary "magsafe" connecter on recent laptops (though you can still u…

> Apparently enough customers wanted it.

Magsafe is genuinely a nice innovation that users missed. It solves the cord yank problem. But I do like having the option to use USB-C if I don't have the MagSafe cable.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by astrange » Tue, Aug 22, 2023, 8:06 PM UTC

vuln wrote: post #105

cfiggers wrote: post #93

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> Also, couldn't find anything coming near the value of a baseline Macbook Air M1 as far as build quality, battery life, stability etc. is concerned. I have a Surface Laptop 4 with an AMD processor and 16GB of RAM. I'm extremely happy with it, though I'll concede that the build quality is a click lower than a M1 MacBook Air (two of the rubber feet have fallen off of mine, being my main ding against it) and nobody can…

> Oh, and the facial recognition unlock is the best. This is scary as fuck. Combined with all the telemetry and tracking M$ is now doing without care from within its operating system. Windows and Android are subsidized data collection applications which run on subsidized hardware. Simple as.

There's nothing valuable about your Windows telemetry. It just means if you hit a crash it's possible it'll get fixed.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by seabrookmx » Tue, Aug 22, 2023, 8:08 PM UTC

Topgamer7 wrote: post #242

om154 wrote: post #241

Can someone ELI5 what this means?

You can play games and use gui applications on the new M1 devices using Asahi Linux. Which means running Linux instead of MacOS. The only caveat is that most applications won't be compiled for ARM yet, so emulation will still be needed. This is in contrast of Apple dropping support for OpenGL on their devices, and using their own API layer: Metal.

Source? The mainstream distros already have comprehensive ARM support in their repos.

Asahi is working on a Fedora respin which will mean all your usual packages are a `dnf` command away.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by klausa » Tue, Aug 22, 2023, 8:08 PM UTC

baby_souffle wrote: post #290

klausa wrote: post #121

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I can’t imagine any reasonable argument that would make Apple be a target for an anti-trust action for _Macs_. I understand skepticism and not always giving corporations the benefit of the doubt, but they _clearly_ spent a lot of time and resources to make third-party OSes viable on Apple Sillicon Macs.

> I can’t imagine any reasonable argument that would make Apple be a target for an anti-trust action for _Macs_. Why can't the same "there is no OS except iOS allowed on iPhones" argument be applied here? If the only os that boots on a macbook is macOS, that's starting to smell like anti-competitive behavior the same way that only app store approved apps can run on iOS is anti-competitive.

Because the market share is order of magnitude smaller.