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Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by klausa »

baby_souffle wrote: post #104
Aurornis wrote: post #91

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> This puts Apple to shame, plain and simple. They obviously don't care about standards, or compliance, because they like people to be walled in their own little private garden Is everyone missing the part where Apple left the door open for other operating systems and development thereof when it would have been relatively trivial for them to lock the laptops down. They literally made their own silicon and built an en…

> It's really disappointing to see everyone bashing Apple when it's clear to anyone paying attention that they made a conscious decision to leave the door open for 3rd party development. Maybe I'm just a jaded grey-beard but I suspect that this is more of a "placate the anti-trust regulators" play and not a genuine olive branch offering. Apple gets to say "see, look! Not only are we not locking people out - there's a…

I can’t imagine any reasonable argument that would make Apple be a target for an anti-trust action for _Macs_.

I understand skepticism and not always giving corporations the benefit of the doubt, but they _clearly_ spent a lot of time and resources to make third-party OSes viable on Apple Sillicon Macs.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by akshaybhalotia »

therealmarv wrote: post #66
europeanNyan wrote: post #36

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I agree with you completely and yet it's practically impossible finding a worthwhile alternative. I've tried finding alternatives on my last upgrade cycle and it's like having to live with endless amounts of compromises just to get away from Apple. For the iPhone, I tried looking at the Pixel for the Vanilla Android experience and long support, yet it seems like people are fighting battery life issues all the time. N…

I still don't understand why people think in 2023 that Android can not be a viable alternative to an iPhone. I would never use an iPhone for certain software and UX related issues (biggest is the missing back gesture/button). My Pixel does better photos than ANY iPhone on the market. Macbook Air M1, just look at Dell XPS series. Samsung S9 tablets have an OLED display. OLED... you don't get that on any iPad. Apple Wa…

> I would never use an iPhone for certain software and UX related issues (biggest is the missing back gesture/button)

Um, swiping from the left edge takes you back on iPhone and iPad. Not sure how long ago did you last test the "missing back gesture" theory. Been using an iPhone for 3 years and has always been this way.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by eyelidlessness »

matthew-wegner wrote: post #5

Why is M2 Ultra support missing? I'm curious more than anything--lack of developer hardware? Something technical? "The Khronos website lists all conformant implementations, including our drivers for the M1, M1 Pro/Max/Ultra, M2, and M2 Pro/Max." Edit: Interesting that so many people are downvoting this. I'm not complaining; I didn't know, so I asked a question. Seems like the answer is that it's too new, especially w…

I didn’t downvote you, and I understood your meaning clearly. I think people might read “why is ___ missing?” and skip over the rest, assuming the question represents an expectation.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by klausa »

anentropic wrote: post #87
alberth wrote: post #42

For clarity, this isn't the first conformant linux drivers. Apple themselves are not conformant to OpenGL® ES 3.1. So this is literally the first conformant OpenGL ES 3.1 drivers for M-Series, for any operating system (Apple or Non-Apple). Hence why the call to action to donate to the team. https://asahilinux.org/support/

Makes me wonder... is it possible to use this from macOS?

Can you use Windows drivers for your GPU on Linux?

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by pohl »

nly wrote: post #116
bwanab wrote: post #98

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My son bought a Dell XPS for exactly that reason. After 1.5 years, the battery life was at 50%. He called Dell support and they said it was normal. He's now in the market for a MacBook Air M2.

This is a limit of battery technology. Your Apple laptop will ha e shit battery life in a few years as well

Device manufacturers can engineer for longer useful lifespan by oversizing the battery, can't they? Do they all do that to the same extent?

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by tracker1 »

europeanNyan wrote: post #36
bsaul wrote: post #12

"Of course, Asahi Lina and I are two individuals with minimal funding. It’s a little awkward that we beat the big corporation…" Love the euphemism. This puts Apple to shame, plain and simple. They obviously don't care about standards, or compliance, because they like people to be walled in their own little private garden (still waiting for the facetime standard, or any kind of cross-platform technology created in the…

I agree with you completely and yet it's practically impossible finding a worthwhile alternative. I've tried finding alternatives on my last upgrade cycle and it's like having to live with endless amounts of compromises just to get away from Apple. For the iPhone, I tried looking at the Pixel for the Vanilla Android experience and long support, yet it seems like people are fighting battery life issues all the time. N…

Probably the closest option to M1 on build quality and battery will be the AMD version of the Framework laptop... if you want can run Windows or Linux without issue. Will probably go that direction on my next purchase. Later this year and next year AMD are releasing new laptop CPU/APU that will absolutely kill on performance:watt, while they're a bit ahead of Intel at the moment, they're going to leap a bit further ahead if GPU perf matters to you. Not that Intel is asleep, just behind.

On the phone, I started with Android, so just kind of used to it... I've bought about every 2-3 generations for a while, currently on a Pixel 4a. I tend to avoid the high end, and find if you wait 3 months or so after a new release, the kinks are usually worked out by then.

As to the iPad, there really isn't a good alternative that I'm aware of... there are still a few Android options, none are great... the MS surface tablet and other convertable laptops are okay, but still not as nice a UX, it's not my thing so doesn't bother me, but can understand why if it works, it really works for you.

Watch is about on par, from what I understand.. again, not something I'm into personally.

I tend to take the Apple option for work (software dev, mostly web/svc oriented) only because corp Apple experience is generally better than corp windows.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by mwint »

nly wrote: post #116
bwanab wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My son bought a Dell XPS for exactly that reason. After 1.5 years, the battery life was at 50%. He called Dell support and they said it was normal. He's now in the market for a MacBook Air M2.

This is a limit of battery technology. Your Apple laptop will ha e shit battery life in a few years as well

I have an Apple laptop that is a few years old. It does not have shit battery life. Probably 90% of new.

Did you research this statement before making it?

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by zbentley »

4gotunameagain wrote: post #32
btown wrote: post #16

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https://www.youtube.com/c/AsahiLina for those who aren't aware - some of the most incredible low-level programming work I've ever seen!

If only it weren't obscured behind unbearable levels of anime cringe. I guess I'm getting old.

Shrug. It's certainly unusual by the standard of programmers-as-geeky-yet-professional-folks, which is what most people expect these days.

However, programming has, for most of the last 60 years, attracted many people from the weird, misfit, or cringe-du-jour segments of the population. This is nothing new; plenty of hackers in the '80s and '90s had public personas that were weirder than this.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by xet7 »

solardev wrote: post #6

As a user, what does this mean? Are there games that still target opengl?

When I tested it, at Asahi Fedora at M1 Air, Extreme Tux Racer runs very smooth.

Godot 3 and Godot 4 did not recognize this OpenGL ES 3.1.

Wishing for Godot compatible support and external monitor support for M1 Air.

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