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Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by KerrAvon »

bsaul wrote: post #12

"Of course, Asahi Lina and I are two individuals with minimal funding. It’s a little awkward that we beat the big corporation…" Love the euphemism. This puts Apple to shame, plain and simple. They obviously don't care about standards, or compliance, because they like people to be walled in their own little private garden (still waiting for the facetime standard, or any kind of cross-platform technology created in the…

Apple themselves tell you to use Metal instead of OpenGL on Apple platforms. It’s not beating the big corporation if the big corporation isn’t in the competition.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by mfink »

selectodude wrote: post #44
eru wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Also, couldn't find anything coming near the value of a baseline Macbook Air M1 as far as build quality, battery life, stability etc. is concerned. The ThinkPads are pretty good laptops, especially if you put Linux on them.

My brand new work thinkpad is total garbage compared to my two year old MacBook Pro. Only laptop where I need to use an external mouse.

Yes, and the fan blows directly onto your mouse hand, making mouse usage awkward as well.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by vGPU »

4gotunameagain wrote: post #32
btown wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.youtube.com/c/AsahiLina for those who aren't aware - some of the most incredible low-level programming work I've ever seen!

If only it weren't obscured behind unbearable levels of anime cringe. I guess I'm getting old.

It’s just part of the “coder” subculture these days. To quote @SwiftOnSecurity:

“I said that all furries are programmers. I have been contacted and am issuing a correction. There are three furries who are not programmers.”

https://x.com/swiftonsecurity/status/511043756788043776?s=46

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by jasonjmcghee »

eru wrote: post #39
europeanNyan wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with you completely and yet it's practically impossible finding a worthwhile alternative. I've tried finding alternatives on my last upgrade cycle and it's like having to live with endless amounts of compromises just to get away from Apple. For the iPhone, I tried looking at the Pixel for the Vanilla Android experience and long support, yet it seems like people are fighting battery life issues all the time. N…

> Also, couldn't find anything coming near the value of a baseline Macbook Air M1 as far as build quality, battery life, stability etc. is concerned. The ThinkPads are pretty good laptops, especially if you put Linux on them.

Use to be 100% linux person. I've gone through many thinkpads. M1 Air is so far beyond them it's not even close.

Battery life is (not exaggerating) 5x or more in my experience.

It's honest to god, much faster.

Completely silent and cool. (one of my thinkpads almost burned me it got so hot, and the fans get so loud)

I've never had a single crash, random restart, failure to sleep, failure to charge, driver problem, touchpad randomly not working, wifi failing, all of which I've had with thinkpads.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by nicce »

eru wrote: post #39
europeanNyan wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with you completely and yet it's practically impossible finding a worthwhile alternative. I've tried finding alternatives on my last upgrade cycle and it's like having to live with endless amounts of compromises just to get away from Apple. For the iPhone, I tried looking at the Pixel for the Vanilla Android experience and long support, yet it seems like people are fighting battery life issues all the time. N…

> Also, couldn't find anything coming near the value of a baseline Macbook Air M1 as far as build quality, battery life, stability etc. is concerned. The ThinkPads are pretty good laptops, especially if you put Linux on them.

> The ThinkPads are pretty good laptops, especially if you put Linux on them

I used ThinkPads for 7 years until getting new M2 Pro, mostly with Linux.

Touchpads on Thinkpads are not getting even close to Macbooks. You need external mouse.

Also the the basic screen quality on current Macbook Pros is beyond their top quality products. Try to look for 1000 nits screen? Not even gaming laptops have quality ones.

And battery life...

And performance...

When you have enough performance on your machine, the physical touch, screen and overall stability goes beyond everything else. Thinkpads have better durability on keyboard tho.

I also used to have one of those OLED Thinkpads and that was the biggiest mess I ever hard. They even cancelled OLED screens on all products for 4 years after that. The screen just broke every one month.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by jolux »

selectodude wrote: post #45
jolux wrote: post #29

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Jobs is the guy who claimed they were going to make it an open standard originally.

Jobs just added that to the keynote presentation after running it past nobody.

He was the CEO, if he wanted it done it would have happened.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by freedomben »

matthew-wegner wrote: post #5

Why is M2 Ultra support missing? I'm curious more than anything--lack of developer hardware? Something technical? "The Khronos website lists all conformant implementations, including our drivers for the M1, M1 Pro/Max/Ultra, M2, and M2 Pro/Max." Edit: Interesting that so many people are downvoting this. I'm not complaining; I didn't know, so I asked a question. Seems like the answer is that it's too new, especially w…

You're being downvoted because people assume you're making an implicit criticism with your question, and many people tend to assume the worst intent rather than the best intent like they're supposed to. Fortunately it usually balances out after some time. Adding a clarification like you did is the correct thing to do (and always a good idea, especially in a text forum).

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by lostdog »

selectodude wrote: post #44
eru wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Also, couldn't find anything coming near the value of a baseline Macbook Air M1 as far as build quality, battery life, stability etc. is concerned. The ThinkPads are pretty good laptops, especially if you put Linux on them.

My brand new work thinkpad is total garbage compared to my two year old MacBook Pro. Only laptop where I need to use an external mouse.

Agreed. I got a gen10 thinkpad (with Linux). The power supply makes a crackling noise. After 6 months the fan starting making grinding. The screen flickers when the CPU is loaded, and once a week the whole thing just locks up. Worst laptop I've owned.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by paulddraper »

europeanNyan wrote: post #36
bsaul wrote: post #12

"Of course, Asahi Lina and I are two individuals with minimal funding. It’s a little awkward that we beat the big corporation…" Love the euphemism. This puts Apple to shame, plain and simple. They obviously don't care about standards, or compliance, because they like people to be walled in their own little private garden (still waiting for the facetime standard, or any kind of cross-platform technology created in the…

I agree with you completely and yet it's practically impossible finding a worthwhile alternative. I've tried finding alternatives on my last upgrade cycle and it's like having to live with endless amounts of compromises just to get away from Apple. For the iPhone, I tried looking at the Pixel for the Vanilla Android experience and long support, yet it seems like people are fighting battery life issues all the time. N…

> yet it seems like people are fighting battery life issues all the time

I miss the days when I charged my cell phone twice a week.

It didn't take 100 mexapixel photos or display 4K cat GIFs, so I understand why.

But I miss that battery life nonetheless.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by KerrAvon »

seeknotfind wrote: post #24
jolux wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple ended up in a battle with a patent troll over FaceTime, which could be part of why it hasn’t been opened up.

Lol. It's intentionally closed, so network effects can drive usage. Common Apple strategy, straight from Jobs.

Yes, Jobs, the great satan of tech. He died so that Tim Apple could sin with impunity. No FaceTime for Windows users — it will bring the rebels to their knees.
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