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Ego Death

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Re: Ego Death

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Post by verisimi »

beaker52 wrote: post #86
verisimi wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're right, there nothing much there but excessive, if muted, self-grandiosement and hypocritical judgement. Eg, the first sentence: > As I begin settling into a new flow of my life I find myself finding tremendous sanctuary and peace with myself. 2 * "I", 2 * "myself", 1 * "my life" and a claim that this person has found "tremendous sanctuary and peace". > I notice this internal tranquility seems to be related to…

The ego has a million-and-one (and, always one more) ways to subtly cling to anyone trying to rid themselves of it. As far as I can tell, from observations in myself, and of others, the ego is only something you can manage. You can experience moments of freedom (most reliably through psychedelics in my experience) that give you a taste of something beautiful and relieving. But the ego is just sleeping. The tentacles…

I agree. I don't think its possible to kill one's ego. And that one shouldn't want to do that anyway.

I would say, that one can educate the ego so that it is working with you not against you - one can try to align it with one's principles and remove the multiple incompatible desires in oneself. This involves internal reflection, awareness of one's emotions, acknowledgement of one's shadow self, love of honesty, endurance - and hopefully, at the end of the process you have emotions, thought and actions all working in an aligned, non-dissonant way.

Re: Ego Death

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Post by jaapz »

Wolfenstein98k wrote: post #68

I don't know how to say this constructively, but this post reads like it is written with a deep smugness. It feels very "ego-y". It feels like the author has glommed onto a real concept (denying the ego) but instead used it to get out of the competitive marketplace of social media, and instead take it to their blog where the competition is invisible and lesser. It even basically finishes with "tune in later to keep i…

> It even basically finishes with "tune in later to keep in touch with my journey of mastering what all you plebs struggle with and can't see."

She recently suddenly passed away (climbing accident), which is pretty weird considering this article and how it ends.

Re: Ego Death

#93

Post by elcapitan »

Wolfenstein98k wrote: post #68

I don't know how to say this constructively, but this post reads like it is written with a deep smugness. It feels very "ego-y". It feels like the author has glommed onto a real concept (denying the ego) but instead used it to get out of the competitive marketplace of social media, and instead take it to their blog where the competition is invisible and lesser. It even basically finishes with "tune in later to keep i…

To me it reads more like the self-criticism litany from a communist show trial.

Re: Ego Death

#94

Post by seszett »

unmole wrote: post #60
seszett wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But it's not the case for me, how comes? Surely you must willingly follow people who post this kind of content, or inflammatory tags? Because I think it's the only way this content can reach you.

> Surely you must willingly follow people who post this kind of content, or inflammatory tags? Because I think it's the only way this content can reach you. Really? Right now, if I go to mastodon.social, I'm redirected to https://mastodon.social/explore and 3 out of the first 4 posts are people fulminating about "red states", "anti-racism" and "Twitter" respectively.

Well I have to say I never really visited this instance directly, I just visited the main French one (piaille.fr) initially, and eventually signed up on the SDF instance but I just don't visit the "local posts feed", I only read what I'm following.

As far as I know my experience would be the same with any other instance, nobody has to read random posts by people who just happen to be on the same instance.

Re: Ego Death

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Post by seszett »

unmole wrote: post #85
d110af5ccf wrote: post #79

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Similarly, if you visit certain instances you will be greeted with the polar opposite of that. The inhabitants of some instances are more political than others. If you actually create an account you will be able to pick and choose whose posts you want to see. The strictly chronological approach seems to work fairly well as long as you only follow a few people but it doesn't scale very well.

> The inhabitants of some instances are more political than others. Which ones are less political? I went to a supposedly global and tech focused instance only to find US political slogans in the "About" page itself. > If you actually create an account you will be able to pick and choose whose posts you want to see. That didn't work on Twitter and I doubt it'll work on Mastodon. Neither of them have a way of categori…

> There's no way to follow someone to get updates about their work without being subjected to whatever political digressions they chose to share.

Well that's a weakness inherent to microblogging, some people like it evidently (as seen by the success of Twitter). I don't and only got a Mastodon account because I need it to follow some work I'm interested in, and indeed I need to ignore posts I don't care about.

Following and ignoring tags helps, but it's not perfect. But it works better than on Twitter.

Re: Ego Death

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Post by ajani »

lo_zamoyski wrote: post #27
netsharc wrote: post #9

> We aren’t using social media to drive action. We are using it to farm a false sense of worth. To cast stones at anyone who foolishly stumbles into the latest virtue-trap. Yeah, it feels like most of social media is now shit-flinging and calling the "outside group" stupid so one can feel "At least I'm not a stupid horrible person like that idiot!". I notice on Instagram you can "like" comments but not dislike them,…

Social media simply amplifies what is already common among human beings. One way it seems to do this is by flattening and legitimizing impropriety. Normal societies are "chunky", that is, you have niches and enclaves and varying distance unified in some increasingly "thin" manner. This enables various kinds of relationships to flourish (think of how marriage creates a special space for the couple, and then another sp…

Doesn't it flatten all behavior and not just impropriety?

Re: Ego Death

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Post by [deleted] »

Wolfenstein98k wrote: post #68

I don't know how to say this constructively, but this post reads like it is written with a deep smugness. It feels very "ego-y". It feels like the author has glommed onto a real concept (denying the ego) but instead used it to get out of the competitive marketplace of social media, and instead take it to their blog where the competition is invisible and lesser. It even basically finishes with "tune in later to keep i…

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Re: Ego Death

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Post by fsiefken »

jimmaswell wrote: post #48
lo_zamoyski wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Social media simply amplifies what is already common among human beings. One way it seems to do this is by flattening and legitimizing impropriety. Normal societies are "chunky", that is, you have niches and enclaves and varying distance unified in some increasingly "thin" manner. This enables various kinds of relationships to flourish (think of how marriage creates a special space for the couple, and then another sp…

Google solved this with circles. Too bad that thing didn't catch on.

With Facebook and Twitter you can make lists. This feature is fairly recent, I think they are the same as the late Google Plus circles.

Re: Ego Death

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Post by linuxdude314 »

Wolfenstein98k wrote: post #68

I don't know how to say this constructively, but this post reads like it is written with a deep smugness. It feels very "ego-y". It feels like the author has glommed onto a real concept (denying the ego) but instead used it to get out of the competitive marketplace of social media, and instead take it to their blog where the competition is invisible and lesser. It even basically finishes with "tune in later to keep i…

Do you realize you’re providing a very smug criticism about a recently deceased, beloved by many, community member?

If the authors earnest blog post strikes you as ego-y maybe stop for a second check your own ego.

Your cynical response to someone practicing vulnerability is disgusting.

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