How Hinge's algorithm decides who you date
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#52Look at the incentives. Dating apps want you to keep paying. That means they don't want you to meet someone worth entering a long-term rrlationship with. They want you to have just enough success to stay a customer. The occasional, not-awful date. Like playing the slots: you get occasional, small payouts, and you hear about other people winning jackpots (oops, they slipped up), so you keep putting money in. A believa…
that doesnt make sense, there would always be a new generation entering the dating age. Otherwise the marriage industry would be optimizing for divorces too.
Don't they? I mean, maybe not intentionally, but it certainly evolved to be that way.
The more they can get you to pay for a once-off party, the less money you have entering your marriage. The less money the man pays, the more encouragement is bride is given to be bitter. This results in entering a marriage with less financial stability than you'd otherwise have.
They sell the message constantly that it's okay to forgo things like home ownership as long as you get the "perfect" (i.e. most expensive) marriage.
There's ever more useless things added to the ritual, resulting in an ever more stressful time due to more friction and more bitterness afterwards. They have spoken rules about how much you should spend based on a multiple (not a fraction) of what your income is.
They don't care, and often even encourage, allowing the future in-laws to make a loan so that the couple can get the best marriage. That certainly looks like optimising for divorce to me.
They sell it as a once in a lifetime experience, but they already know from their own experience that it's 50/50, if that.
To me it looks like they are optimising for revenue, which indirectly means optimising for divorces.
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#53I've used Hinge a lot as a heterosexual male, and it's pretty obvious they want dudes to pay for Roses to message attractive girls. For me and most of my friends who have used it, the disparity between the normal, free feed and the "Standouts", for which one must use Roses, is comical. I don't see how that's too mysterious, and, for the most part, I don't hold it against Hinge, which has to try to make money. edit: a…
I'm too old to have used dating apps, but IIUC the conspiracy theory is not just that you have to pay a premium to message the attractive girls, but they're actually paid by the dating app itself to interact with you. (I'm too old for dating apps, but I'm not too old for certain types of "clubs" whose business model was the same).
Re: How Hinge's algorithm decides who you date
#54I've used Hinge a lot as a heterosexual male, and it's pretty obvious they want dudes to pay for Roses to message attractive girls. For me and most of my friends who have used it, the disparity between the normal, free feed and the "Standouts", for which one must use Roses, is comical. I don't see how that's too mysterious, and, for the most part, I don't hold it against Hinge, which has to try to make money. edit: a…
> pay for Roses to message attractive girls I'm too old to have used dating apps, but IIUC the conspiracy theory is not just that you have to pay a premium to message the attractive girls, but they're actually paid by the dating app itself to interact with you. (I'm too old for dating apps, but I'm not too old for certain types of "clubs" whose business model was the same).
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#55> With the exception of Bumble and Grindr, almost every popular American dating app is owned by a single company called Match Group, including Hinge, Tinder, Match.com, OkCupid, Plenty of Fish, and many others. This is truly a nightmare. How did we allow such a crucial human function, finding a mate, to become monopolized? Both Democrats and Republicans need to date (though maybe not each other), so the issue should…
OTOH, like all relatively simple apps, this ought to be trivially easy to create a competitor for, so it must not be economically feasible to do so (just like Facebook, Twitter and Reddit never got any competition no matter how user hostile they became). Why isn't there a free, non-evil Hinge competitor? Because it costs too much to run, and they have to do this to stay in business.
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#56I downloaded Tinder right after I got single, back in 2015? It was glorious. It really did feel fun and exciting - I'm by no means a model-looking dude, but I got hundreds of matches in a fairly small place (think city with population of 50k), and people just felt more genuine and interested on the various apps back then. Next time around I tried Tinder et. al. was a couple of years later(2018/2019), and I immediatel…
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, it’s not. You’re either both in each other’s ranges or one of you has the selection that says sometimes show people outside this range
Show me the code.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
This erroneously believes that the owners think the following: 1- it is possible to completely tap the dating market and long term customers are necessary 2- customers all have a similar threshold at which they are just-successful enough to stay engaged long term Neither of these things are true. The more people "win the jackpot", per your analogy, the more people will use the platform. The market is big enough they…
> 2- customers all have a similar threshold at which they are just-successful enough to stay engaged long term Don't they just create fake bot accounts to draw you back in when they detect you've abandoned the app? I'd imagine the app is tuned to maximum scam based on the individual user not using a single set of values.
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#59This section is full of mistakes. Especially:
> To use an overly simplistic example, if a lot of 25-year-old women who like Star Wars keep tapping “like” on one man’s profile, the algorithm might show him to more sci-fi fans in that age range.
The example here shows the author fundamentally misunderstands how collaborative filtering works. I am not saying it couldn't technically happen, just as many things are technically possible in a variety of circumstances, but that this is indicative of a Dunning Kruger esque mistake and jeopardizes the rest of his analysis.
> Can you hack the dating app algorithm? These guys are trying.
The simplest and most validly performance-improving hack is to create a new account, which isn't discussed here. The recommendations otherwise gathered are incorrect. In the context of the author's poor understanding of the underlying facts, it makes sense why this was printed though.
If you want to learn accurate things about online dating algorithms, take a look at the resources here: https://monstermatch.hiddenswitch.com/algorithms
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#60>Anthony couldn’t think of anything that might have gotten his account flagged. Regardless, Hinge didn’t offer an explanation for his experience. It's been a while since I've been on Hinge, but Hinge is not like Tinder in terms of edgy/risque conversation, and I played every conversation with a match safe. I woke up one morning and was banned. They say you can appeal, but this seems like mostly something to make you…