Petition to stop France from forcing browsers like Firefox to censor websites

Post by stackedinserter » Fri, Aug 18, 2023, 7:18 PM UTC

anthk wrote: post #265

stackedinserter wrote: post #240

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Without Arabic numbers you wouldn't have modern programming => arabs invented JavaScript.

Your comment it's idiocy and you know it. The browser with the HTTP protocol and the HTML markup language (sorry for the redundance) came from Europe. Period. Everything else has been extensions of top. Worse, a good chunk of codec technology (FFMPEG) came from Europe, too. So without FFMPEG and the browser itself you wouldn't do shit, you would be trapped with Gopher licenses from Minessota. And, that's ironic, beca…

Post by selfhoster11 » Sat, Aug 19, 2023, 8:22 AM UTC

von_lohengramm wrote: post #230

selfhoster11 wrote: post #218

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> Doesn't seem unreasonable that computer OS's and/or web browsers be required to support the same. Why? Web browsers were designed from the start to show you only content you expressly requested. Notification APIs are still opt-in. A browser is primarily pull-oriented, whereas a phone was always bi-directional. Inverting this expectation for the browser is very much unwelcome.

You are interpreting "unreasonable" from the perspective of a citizen, not from the perspective of the government.

Post by riedel » Sun, Aug 20, 2023, 9:04 AM UTC

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I also do not quite get the GP comment. I see it also logical to block content on application layer from the OSI perspective. If you cannot do on the source do it at the sink if do not want to break e2e encryption. The DNS blocks have been taking down half of cloudflare in the past, so would IP blocks in many casesm How to make this technically effective so that you really need a bit of criminal energy to bypass it i…

Note about the more productive approach: Mozilla published a blog post[0] back in late June about what solutions are already available and advising for the law to reinforce these existing mechanisms instead of mandating a new browser-level blocking thing that can easily be abused. [0] https://blog.mozilla.org/netpolicy/2023/06/26/france-browser...