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Cruise told by CA DMV to reduce robotaxi fleet 50% following crash

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Re: Cruise told by CA DMV to reduce robotaxi fleet 50% following crash

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Post by seizethecheese »

bdowling wrote: post #9
joshuahedlund wrote: post #2

> The latest Cruise incident occurred Thursday night when a Cruise robotaxi and an emergency vehicle crashed and left a passenger injured. Cruise said in a social media post that one of its self-driving Chevy Bolt EVs entered an intersection on a green traffic light at Polk and Turk streets when it was struck by an emergency vehicle that appeared to be en route to an emergency scene. Noticing and responding to emerge…

> Noticing and responding to emergency sounds/signals in the road… How do deaf drivers respond to sirens from emergency vehicles?

Flashing lights

Re: Cruise told by CA DMV to reduce robotaxi fleet 50% following crash

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Post by pengaru »

paul7986 wrote: post #10

Unbelievable these things are on the street and more have been deployed! A bunch of Cruise cars lose internet connection and become disabled blocking a street. All because the 5G network is being slammed by a music festival 6 miles away. Laughable! Has Verizon, ATT, etc solved that issue of too many connections at a Taylor Swift concert for example? Then a passenger is hurt because AI can't hear or detect emergencies…

> What's next a Cruise car gets hacked and then is used as a weapon.

Nobody would burn that hack on just a single vehicle. It'll be fleet-wide once inside, then we'll see some Daniel Suarez level chaos in the streets with mobs of robotaxis converging on targets at 100% throttle.

Re: Cruise told by CA DMV to reduce robotaxi fleet 50% following crash

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Post by rootusrootus »

Everywhere I've lived, it's the responsibility of the emergency vehicle to avoid a wreck when they are crossing an intersection against the signal, whether they're lit up and blasting the siren or not. If the Cruise vehicle really did have a green and the emergency vehicle struck them, then this doesn't actually seem like their fault.

Re: Cruise told by CA DMV to reduce robotaxi fleet 50% following crash

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Post by el_benhameen »

bdowling wrote: post #9
joshuahedlund wrote: post #2

> The latest Cruise incident occurred Thursday night when a Cruise robotaxi and an emergency vehicle crashed and left a passenger injured. Cruise said in a social media post that one of its self-driving Chevy Bolt EVs entered an intersection on a green traffic light at Polk and Turk streets when it was struck by an emergency vehicle that appeared to be en route to an emergency scene. Noticing and responding to emerge…

> Noticing and responding to emergency sounds/signals in the road… How do deaf drivers respond to sirens from emergency vehicles?

Rumbler sirens can be felt, in addition to the tonal difference: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumbler_siren

Re: Cruise told by CA DMV to reduce robotaxi fleet 50% following crash

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Post by botanical »

I've said it before when a self-driving Uber killed a woman, and I'll say it again:

I don't understand why authorities allow self-driving cars to beta test out in public. I thought Waymo was the best with something like millions of hours on the road but when they started accepting passengers, it failed to proceed past a traffic cone:

https://youtu.be/zdKCQKBvH-A?t=742

I wouldn't trust any of the others like Tesla and Uber that think self-driving is as easy putting it out on the road. And Tesla with their cost-saving no LIDAR nonsense.

These companies should be fined hefty amounts and barred from testing out in public.

Re: Cruise told by CA DMV to reduce robotaxi fleet 50% following crash

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Post by paul7986 »

rootusrootus wrote: post #13

Everywhere I've lived, it's the responsibility of the emergency vehicle to avoid a wreck when they are crossing an intersection against the signal, whether they're lit up and blasting the siren or not. If the Cruise vehicle really did have a green and the emergency vehicle struck them, then this doesn't actually seem like their fault.

Ummm when you are driving and hear a EMT vehicle you as a driver have to immediately pull to the side and out of the way.

Sounds like your giving the robot guinea pig AI car a pass when clearly it did not and will not act like a human does.

Re: Cruise told by CA DMV to reduce robotaxi fleet 50% following crash

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Post by jhugo »

> “Over one hundred people lose their lives every day on American roadways, and countless others are badly injured, Cruise said in a statement sent via email.

I’m so tired of this angle being accepted at face value. Current driverless cars are not even capable of safely navigating situations that below-average human drivers rarely struggle with, like avoiding driving into clearly marked wet concrete, or not crashing into an emergency vehicle that has its sirens and lights blazing.

Nobody should trust their evidence-free assurances that they will also be better at the less routine, more complex situations that human drivers (who almost universally have better sensors and better cognition) currently fail at.

Re: Cruise told by CA DMV to reduce robotaxi fleet 50% following crash

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Post by hattmall »

seizethecheese wrote: post #11
bdowling wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Noticing and responding to emergency sounds/signals in the road… How do deaf drivers respond to sirens from emergency vehicles?

Flashing lights

The big one too is noticing everyone else slow down so you start trying to figure out why and look around more.

Re: Cruise told by CA DMV to reduce robotaxi fleet 50% following crash

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Post by YeBanKo » 

   > The latest Cruise incident occurred Thursday night when a Cruise robotaxi and an emergency vehicle crashed and left a passenger injured. Cruise said in a social media post that one of its self-driving Chevy Bolt EVs entered an intersection on a green traffic light at Polk and Turk streets when it was struck by an emergency vehicle that appeared to be en route to an emergency scene.
It sounds serious. But more importantly, it’s a self driving car and a public emergency vehicle. I expect both to have a high def video of the accident and it should be released soon for the public benefit. The US is one of the most driving countries and it’s one of those rear cases when it’s about a public safety and everyone is an expert.

Re: Cruise told by CA DMV to reduce robotaxi fleet 50% following crash

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Post by zarzavat »

bdowling wrote: post #9
joshuahedlund wrote: post #2

> The latest Cruise incident occurred Thursday night when a Cruise robotaxi and an emergency vehicle crashed and left a passenger injured. Cruise said in a social media post that one of its self-driving Chevy Bolt EVs entered an intersection on a green traffic light at Polk and Turk streets when it was struck by an emergency vehicle that appeared to be en route to an emergency scene. Noticing and responding to emerge…

> Noticing and responding to emergency sounds/signals in the road… How do deaf drivers respond to sirens from emergency vehicles?

Most drivers aren’t deaf, and many people who are hard of hearing can at least hear a siren approaching.

If all drivers were completely deaf it would indeed be a problem.

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