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Cruise told by CA DMV to reduce robotaxi fleet 50% following crash

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Re: Cruise told by CA DMV to reduce robotaxi fleet 50% following crash

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> The latest Cruise incident occurred Thursday night when a Cruise robotaxi and an emergency vehicle crashed and left a passenger injured. Cruise said in a social media post that one of its self-driving Chevy Bolt EVs entered an intersection on a green traffic light at Polk and Turk streets when it was struck by an emergency vehicle that appeared to be en route to an emergency scene.

Noticing and responding to emergency sounds/signals in the road, distant but approaching, is yet another subtly complex aspect of human driving I hadn’t thought of but which seems obvious in retrospect. Seems solvable in theory but also involves a lot of uncertainty and contingencies. Then I suppose the cone-blocking hackers will start playing siren recordings to confuse the robotaxis…

Re: Cruise told by CA DMV to reduce robotaxi fleet 50% following crash

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I am a little confused at how the reduction request is coming from the CA DMV…

> The California Department of Motor Vehicles, the agency that regulates the testing and deployment of autonomous vehicles in the state, requested the reduction in operations.

… while it was the CPUC that allowed an expansion of their fleet:

> The CPUC, the agency that regulates ride-hailing operations including those involving robotaxis, approved Cruise and Waymo on August 10 for final permits that allow the companies to operate 24 hours a day, seven days a week, expand their fleets and charge for rides throughout the city.

I guess Cruise is still officially allowed to run the expanded fleet, but the DMV has the ability to say "Stop everything" and so their request has the weight of an order?

Re: Cruise told by CA DMV to reduce robotaxi fleet 50% following crash

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> The latest Cruise incident occurred Thursday night when a Cruise robotaxi and an emergency vehicle crashed and left a passenger injured. Cruise said in a social media post that one of its self-driving Chevy Bolt EVs entered an intersection on a green traffic light at Polk and Turk streets when it was struck by an emergency vehicle that appeared to be en route to an emergency scene. Noticing and responding to emerge…

> Then I suppose the cone-blocking hackers will start playing siren recordings to confuse the robotaxis…

Ummm, that would even confuse normal drivers, and I hope that it would wind you up in jail.

Those siren sounds get played on the radio sometimes, and I really wish that it was illegal to do so.

Re: Cruise told by CA DMV to reduce robotaxi fleet 50% following crash

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> The latest Cruise incident occurred Thursday night when a Cruise robotaxi and an emergency vehicle crashed and left a passenger injured. Cruise said in a social media post that one of its self-driving Chevy Bolt EVs entered an intersection on a green traffic light at Polk and Turk streets when it was struck by an emergency vehicle that appeared to be en route to an emergency scene. Noticing and responding to emerge…

Honestly, looking at recent news reports in the Chronicle, I don't think cone-blocking hackers need to do anything more right now. I mean, why cause trouble for someone if they're already slipping up in this way?

Re: Cruise told by CA DMV to reduce robotaxi fleet 50% following crash

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post #5

> The latest Cruise incident occurred Thursday night when a Cruise robotaxi and an emergency vehicle crashed and left a passenger injured. Cruise said in a social media post that one of its self-driving Chevy Bolt EVs entered an intersection on a green traffic light at Polk and Turk streets when it was struck by an emergency vehicle that appeared to be en route to an emergency scene. Noticing and responding to emerge…

> Then I suppose the cone-blocking hackers will start playing siren recordings to confuse the robotaxis… Ummm, that would even confuse normal drivers, and I hope that it would wind you up in jail. Those siren sounds get played on the radio sometimes, and I really wish that it was illegal to do so.

In BobbyBroccoli's "The man who tried to fake an element", the title sequence music has a police siren play at one point. Every time I watch the video, I think there's an real-life siren outside.

Re: Cruise told by CA DMV to reduce robotaxi fleet 50% following crash

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I am a little confused at how the reduction request is coming from the CA DMV… > The California Department of Motor Vehicles, the agency that regulates the testing and deployment of autonomous vehicles in the state, requested the reduction in operations. … while it was the CPUC that allowed an expansion of their fleet: > The CPUC, the agency that regulates ride-hailing operations including those involving robotaxis,…

CPUC permit only governs what they can charge money for. The DMV permit controls what they can put on the road.

Re: Cruise told by CA DMV to reduce robotaxi fleet 50% following crash

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> The latest Cruise incident occurred Thursday night when a Cruise robotaxi and an emergency vehicle crashed and left a passenger injured. Cruise said in a social media post that one of its self-driving Chevy Bolt EVs entered an intersection on a green traffic light at Polk and Turk streets when it was struck by an emergency vehicle that appeared to be en route to an emergency scene. Noticing and responding to emerge…

> Noticing and responding to emergency sounds/signals in the road…

How do deaf drivers respond to sirens from emergency vehicles?

Re: Cruise told by CA DMV to reduce robotaxi fleet 50% following crash

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Unbelievable these things are on the street and more have been deployed!

A bunch of Cruise cars lose internet connection and become disabled blocking a street. All because the 5G network is being slammed by a music festival 6 miles away. Laughable! Has Verizon, ATT, etc solved that issue of too many connections at a Taylor Swift concert for example?

Then a passenger is hurt because AI can't hear or detect emergencies vehicles rushing to save lives, but in the end the EMT vehicle is blocked from saving lives and hurts another life. All in the name of rich tech moguls trying to win the AI robot car market. Progress will be deadly killer ... Uber's car already killed a pedesterian.

I have a bit more faith in Waymo as Google has been at it since 2005 or 2007. Cruise seems like another Uber ... do whatever it takes to win the AI robot car race... knowing all along they are not ready for prime time and are learning as they go. What's next a Cruise car gets hacked and then is used as a weapon.

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