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Mister Rogers had a point – routinely greeting six neighbors maximizes wellbeing

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In our last house we knew 90% of the people on our street and regularly interacted with them. We have been in our new house for just over 2 years and only know our neighbors on one side of our house. The neighbor in the other house moved in just a week after we did. In those 2 years we have seen him only once, they day he moved in when he pulled up in his car, got out (without looking our way), opened the garage door…

Spooky. If not for the garbage cans you'd wonder if he was even alive.

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Re: Mister Rogers had a point – routinely greeting six neighbors maximizes wellbeing

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post #49

Most of the year, I live in a midwestern suburb: 1/3rd of an acre lots as far as the eye can see. I go on a walk every day, but it's rare that I ever actually see a human being during said walk: Everyone is cooped up in their houses. In practice, in most of this suburban life, every bit of human interaction is planned. We drive to commerce, and there we are met by workers with constantly changing schedules, who have…

I grew up in the suburbs, and it was a noteworthy occurrence when someone saw someone they knew out and about at the store or something like that.

Now I live in the city and with so many more people around I see people I know so much more often. It really makes you understand how isolating the suburbs can become.

Re: Mister Rogers had a point – routinely greeting six neighbors maximizes wellbeing

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We got a small, older dog a couple years ago, mostly for my wife. She has health issues and can't walk the dog, so it fell on me. At first I was kind of resentful. The dog is ponderous and doesn't really take direction much, and I'm way too short on free time. Well, I've lived in the neighborhood for ten years and only when I started walking the dog did I start meeting a bunch of people in the neighborhood. I still w…

Walking the dog is sort of the meat space version of having an article to discuss online. It facilitates having a thing to talk about, to politely bond over without being overly personal, an excuse for the interaction so you don't sound like a creepy stalker for talking to a stranger for no reason.

Re: Mister Rogers had a point – routinely greeting six neighbors maximizes wellbeing

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This was one of the biggest surprises for me moving to the burbs after 40 years of NYC.

You get to know your neighbors and their kids, you drive more politely because the person you are going to cut off is someone you have likely met and will again. It sort of transforms you - or rather - allows the more communal version of you - to emerge.

Needless to say, this version of me is more at peace and happier.

Re: Mister Rogers had a point – routinely greeting six neighbors maximizes wellbeing

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mister Rogers was a genuinely wonderful person, who I always strived to emulate (and always failed to do as well as I should). The world is much poorer without him.

But people are still talking about him and trying because of him. He’s left a rich legacy behind. Being kind is mostly free.

Indeed, the world is much richer because he existed.

Re: Mister Rogers had a point – routinely greeting six neighbors maximizes wellbeing

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Falls are a fairly common cause of death. If you are elderly and fall and no one is around to help, that is in many cases a death sentence. Consider also the parent's comment about heart attacks, which you seem to have glossed over. Seems this factor alone can explain the data.

Why would an introvert be more likely to have a heart attack from being alone? People stress me out so much. I imagine less stress would lead to fewer heart attacks.

Seriously? I'm going to copy the parent's comment in full:

> "Loners are probably much more likely to die of say, having a heart attack and not receiving help promptly." On the other hand, loners won't get a heart attack caused by other people ..

Re: Mister Rogers had a point – routinely greeting six neighbors maximizes wellbeing

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In our last house we knew 90% of the people on our street and regularly interacted with them. We have been in our new house for just over 2 years and only know our neighbors on one side of our house. The neighbor in the other house moved in just a week after we did. In those 2 years we have seen him only once, they day he moved in when he pulled up in his car, got out (without looking our way), opened the garage door…

It’s funny, I’ve always known my neighbors and talk to everyone on the block, but then I realized that most of them don’t talk to each other. Strange way to live because we are increasingly living in a world where you’re going to need help sooner or later and who else can you seek help from in emergencies other than your neighbors? We had a mom who had recently moved in, screaming in hysterics on the block one day be…

In the novel I’m currently reading, Popco (which I think the HN crowd would totally dig), there’s a section where there’s a seminar in network theory talking about the reason things like 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon, or any network of connected nodes, manage to have connections with so few hops is because there end up being superconnectors which are connected to a large number of other nodes. I realized I had that role in my circle of friends in my 20s after I moved away and then came back for a visit a few months later and discovered that few of them had seen each other in the intervening months. You likely play that role on your block. Remember, with great power comes great responsibility.

Re: Mister Rogers had a point – routinely greeting six neighbors maximizes wellbeing

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post #35

Mr. Rogers was my actual neighbor in Pittsburgh in 1999-2000, while I was at CMU. He would really go out of his way to have social interactions. He would always say hello and ask how you were doing in a way that felt like he actually genuinely wanted to know the answer. Case of the person in real life being exactly like what he seems like on TV.

This is one thing that always got me about the United States: people will ask you how you are doing, but they don't actually mean it, it's just a required pre-amble, a bit like the tones a modem uses to sync up with the other end. If he did it in a way that he actually genuinely wanted to know the answer that alone would set him apart in a very distinctive way. Most people really don't want to know the answer, but th…

It’s really person dependent. I really mean it, and a lot of folks do. Additionally if you said “not good,” most people will be caught off guard but pivot into sympathy and asking what’s wrong etc. It’s a perfectly acceptable answer. A key thing though is to make sure it’s appropriate to the moment. If my boss asks me how I’m doing I’ll tell them if it’s not good in some way related to work or my performance (I.e., “not good, I can’t get this to compile” or “not good, my mom died I need to take time off,” or even, “not good, I didn’t sleep well last night.”) for friends the “not good” can be deeper, and for family it’s pretty open. For strangers, I still might say “not good” if something particularly acute is happening (“not good, my mom just died,” “not good, I just got out of the hospital this morning.”) I’ve never had someone get uppity about a “not good” response, and have always had an appropriate pivot to sympathy and a refocus on the question.

As such, I’ve always found it odd people narrow in on the “how are you” question being perfunctory and people don’t genuinely care. They routinely ask it and generally expect “good thanks” but react appropriately to other answers.

Re: Mister Rogers had a point – routinely greeting six neighbors maximizes wellbeing

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post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is in the United States, most people don’t really know how they are doing. I don’t know how I’m doing right now. If you asked me you wouldn’t get much of an answer. I might say I’m doing just fine to end the conversation. But what is there to really say? We are simply going about this world trying to survive, trying to not get shot, trying to make so much money so that we never befall the fate of those wh…

I can't tell if this is serious or a joke. I'd hate to have your so pessimistic and negative view of the world though. I don't think most people are viewing things this way (i.e. makes little sense to have one child). Plenty of people are having children and families and enjoying life. If this isn't a joke, it seems you might need some help as there's no way that's a normal way to feel, at least in my experience.

It's not a joke. I feel exactly the same way as grandparent. The more you learn about the world and its workings, the more unhappy you become. It's a hopeless feeling. Like civilization has already peaked before I was even born. I can see where the world's going and I don't like it but can't change it.

I'd say it's the people who don't feel this way who need help but on second thought I wouldn't wish these feelings on anyone.

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