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> Try saying, "Great, and you?" even if you don't mean it at all. You get back what you give out. Yes, that is exactly the problem. It invites fake responses and real responses are not appreciated at all. It's just noise.
as I said: there is no problem. You prefer to live in a private hell, and there are lots of ways to signal that non-verbally.
Mister Rogers had a point – routinely greeting six neighbors maximizes wellbeing
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Re: Mister Rogers had a point – routinely greeting six neighbors maximizes wellbeing
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as I said: there is no problem. You prefer to live in a private hell, and there are lots of ways to signal that non-verbally.
> You prefer to live in a private hell Sorry? Are you a mind reader or something?
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The problem is in the United States, most people don’t really know how they are doing. I don’t know how I’m doing right now. If you asked me you wouldn’t get much of an answer. I might say I’m doing just fine to end the conversation. But what is there to really say? We are simply going about this world trying to survive, trying to not get shot, trying to make so much money so that we never befall the fate of those wh…
> The problem there is no problem. It's a friendly greeting. Sorry your life is such a bummer. Try saying, "Great, and you?" even if you don't mean it at all. You get back what you give out. Edit: you can also say, "Shitty. It sucks to be me." That might even be honest, judging from the responses.
Nothing I hate more than a liar.
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This is one thing that always got me about the United States: people will ask you how you are doing, but they don't actually mean it, it's just a required pre-amble, a bit like the tones a modem uses to sync up with the other end. If he did it in a way that he actually genuinely wanted to know the answer that alone would set him apart in a very distinctive way. Most people really don't want to know the answer, but th…
That reminds me of Tig Notaro's incredible stand-up set when she found out she had cancer: "I have cancer, how are you?" "Is everyone having a good time? I have cancer." It's a masterpiece, in my opinion. Tig finds an intensely awkward situation with an audience that showed up for comedy, and just presses on it relentlessly. I really hope that when it's my turn, I can handle it like her. https://www.youtube.com/watch…
I watched mother-in-law go through the expensive and painful burn/cut/poison and hospice with two morphine patches. On flight home I determined I was going to learn about it and find a different course than what was offered by the medical establishment. The book World Without Cancer helped start my journey. It's not just random bad luck, so take action.
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> You prefer to live in a private hell Sorry? Are you a mind reader or something?
a mind reader? no, it's fairly clear in your writing.
Unbelievable.
Re: Mister Rogers had a point – routinely greeting six neighbors maximizes wellbeing
#116Mr. Rogers was my actual neighbor in Pittsburgh in 1999-2000, while I was at CMU. He would really go out of his way to have social interactions. He would always say hello and ask how you were doing in a way that felt like he actually genuinely wanted to know the answer. Case of the person in real life being exactly like what he seems like on TV.
This is one thing that always got me about the United States: people will ask you how you are doing, but they don't actually mean it, it's just a required pre-amble, a bit like the tones a modem uses to sync up with the other end. If he did it in a way that he actually genuinely wanted to know the answer that alone would set him apart in a very distinctive way. Most people really don't want to know the answer, but th…
it is common to hear a reply as "oh, you know" an an equally un-engaged response. i remember the first time an uncle responed "well, no, I don't. that's why I asked." i had never realized how i had become desensitized to the question that i gave an equally meaningless response. so now, if it's a stranger, it's just a simple "doing good" or "just fine" followed by a "thanks". if it's someone i am familiar with like family or friend, but not coworkers, then i might stop to provide a more truthful response
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#117In our last house we knew 90% of the people on our street and regularly interacted with them. We have been in our new house for just over 2 years and only know our neighbors on one side of our house. The neighbor in the other house moved in just a week after we did. In those 2 years we have seen him only once, they day he moved in when he pulled up in his car, got out (without looking our way), opened the garage door…
6pm-6:30pm seems to be a prime time for people in general and families specifically to go for a walk. If you are outside with kids playing on the front lawn, this leads to a lot of organic conversation since no one is in a rush.
If you happen to be preparing and eating dinner inside during this time (like we used to), you can miss out on a lot of opportunities to get to know your neighbors (assuming they are friendly).
Re: Mister Rogers had a point – routinely greeting six neighbors maximizes wellbeing
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This is one thing that always got me about the United States: people will ask you how you are doing, but they don't actually mean it, it's just a required pre-amble, a bit like the tones a modem uses to sync up with the other end. If he did it in a way that he actually genuinely wanted to know the answer that alone would set him apart in a very distinctive way. Most people really don't want to know the answer, but th…
In linguistics these are called "phatic expressions", and are far from unique to American English. Similar to idioms, phatic expressions don't have the literal meaning implied by their component words and instead serve a social purpose (in this case, serving to signify the beginning of a communication protocol). In British English the analogous phrase would be "you alright?" https://youtube.com/watch?v=eGnH0KAXhCw
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I think you'll find that community matters even more in rural towns. We are social animals. We can't do it all alone. That modern society has enabled us to be 'reclusive' is frankly a maladaptive outcome.
Are you sure we can't? I'm pretty sure there are people who live alone like up in the mountains or out in the wilderness alone and do just fine.
(I've done solo trips and hiked the AT; it's a great experience, but definitely not for everyone.)
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#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is one thing that always got me about the United States: people will ask you how you are doing, but they don't actually mean it, it's just a required pre-amble, a bit like the tones a modem uses to sync up with the other end. If he did it in a way that he actually genuinely wanted to know the answer that alone would set him apart in a very distinctive way. Most people really don't want to know the answer, but th…
In linguistics these are called "phatic expressions", and are far from unique to American English. Similar to idioms, phatic expressions don't have the literal meaning implied by their component words and instead serve a social purpose (in this case, serving to signify the beginning of a communication protocol). In British English the analogous phrase would be "you alright?" https://youtube.com/watch?v=eGnH0KAXhCw
Thank you for posting this and the video link.