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Facebook must pay $100.000 to Norway each day for violating our right to privacy

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Re: Facebook must pay $100.000 to Norway each day for violating our right to privacy

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Post by bondant »

registeredcorn wrote: post #58
bondant wrote: post #49

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Could use a space or an underscore: 100 000 100_000

Interesting! Do you know of any countries that use the underscore? I believe I've seen France(...?) use spaces as a separator, but I've never come across the underscore. Personally I would like some means of breaking up units of triplets that could be used universally. It's frustrating that there isn't a standard across the globe for such crucial means of expression. It wasn't until fairly recently that I learned tha…

I am not aware of any country using the underscore to separate multiple of thousands, I just thought of it because it can be used for that purpose in some programming languages. Ans if it's true that no country is using it, then I guess it could be used as a 'neutral' way of doing it.

Re: Facebook must pay $100.000 to Norway each day for violating our right to privacy

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Post by betaby »

retrac wrote: post #25
DiabloD3 wrote: post #8

So what stops Facebook from just banning Norwegian users?

Getting banned in multiple western countries (this won't be the last case like this I suspect) for refusal to comply with their democratically-valid laws is a great way to end up a corporate pariah. Facebook is in a similar showdown right now with the EU, appealing a 1 billion EUR fine: https://www.ctvnews.ca/business/meta-fined-record-us-1-3-bil... Their disagreement with the Canadian government is coming to a head…

Not related like at all Canadian one. Beside the fact 'governments are not happy.'

Re: Facebook must pay $100.000 to Norway each day for violating our right to privacy

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Post by vidarh »

Filligree wrote: post #44
anilakar wrote: post #42

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Nobody should use punctuation as thousands separator regardless of which side you are on.

Commas are punctuation too... so what are you proposing?

The closest you get to an international standard (that not many use) is the International Bureau of Weights and Measures recommending (ideally thin) spaces (so "10 000")

Re: Facebook must pay $100.000 to Norway each day for violating our right to privacy

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Post by throw5555788o »

jacquesm wrote: post #34
throw5555788o wrote: post #18

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Or simply not complying. After all what can Norway do about it? Lol It reminds them of the Canada govt trying to make FB pay for news. Ehh... NOPE.

Lol indeed: throw their execs in jail when they transit through a country with which they have an extradition agreement (plenty of precedent for that), freeze or seize their assets, block them at the ISP level (ISPs would have to play ball unless they themselves would want to be come a target). The idea that some crap company outranks a nation state with millions of citizens is ridiculous. Also: even though Norway is…

Trust me, if was a Facebook exec I wouldn't lose ANY sleep over it. Norway has 5 millon people, it doesn't have any leverage and it's largely irrelevant.

Not to disrespect Norway bros, but it's the truth.

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Post by Ylpertnodi »

quadral wrote: post #16

I find it interesting that the _smaller_ countries imposes these restrictions and fines as their way of generating revenue. $100,000 a day I can imagine is a fair bit for Norway.

>I find it interesting that the _smaller_ countries imposes these restrictions and fines as their way of generating revenue.

And I always thought fines were to disuade/ punish certain behaviours.

Re: Facebook must pay $100.000 to Norway each day for violating our right to privacy

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Post by belter »

Teever wrote: post #10
belter wrote: post #7

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I suggest people stop making Reddit tier comments on HN.

I see your point about Reddit-tier comments, but I can't help but feel that sometimes they open up a new line of discourse. In the spirit of creative problem-solving, I suggest we solve our disagreement with a good old-fashioned cage fight.

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Post by jfengel »

closewith wrote: post #29
generic92034 wrote: post #21

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There are some exceptions: BHD Bahraini Dinar IQD Iraqui Dinar JOD Jordanian Dinar KWD Kuwaiti Dinar LYD Libyan Dinar OMR Omani Rial TND Tunisian Dinar

Although GP is still technically correct, as a cent is by definition 1/100th of a unit of currency. The above all use fils instead.

Mils, or mills. (Typo, or autocorrupt French keyboard?)

Re: Facebook must pay $100.000 to Norway each day for violating our right to privacy

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Post by jacquesm »

throw5555788o wrote: post #65
jacquesm wrote: post #34

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Lol indeed: throw their execs in jail when they transit through a country with which they have an extradition agreement (plenty of precedent for that), freeze or seize their assets, block them at the ISP level (ISPs would have to play ball unless they themselves would want to be come a target). The idea that some crap company outranks a nation state with millions of citizens is ridiculous. Also: even though Norway is…

Trust me, if was a Facebook exec I wouldn't lose ANY sleep over it. Norway has 5 millon people, it doesn't have any leverage and it's largely irrelevant. Not to disrespect Norway bros, but it's the truth.

I'm not going to trust you. The EU has shown time and again that it is perfectly capable of dealing with asshole companies and Norway, even though it isn't in the EU has enough standing with the Union and the Nordics separately to get them to take this serious.

There is probably a reason that you are not a Facebook exec, and no disrespect to you but you are clueless about how large companies interact with the law. They'll scream, they'll sue, they'll haggle and they will delay but ultimately they fold. The same has already happened to big telco's, many large IT companies, industrial giants etc, FB is no exception.

Re: Facebook must pay $100.000 to Norway each day for violating our right to privacy

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Post by jacquesm »

runarb wrote: post #36
hdjjhhvvhga wrote: post #30

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They can freeze their assets. They can basically do everything you can do against a company that doesn't obey the law.

Correct. From what I can read in the decision letter, Metas local Norwegian subsidiary, named "Facebook Norway AS", is being held collectively responsible for " fine of up to NOK 1 000 000 per day of non-compliance on Meta Platforms Ireland Limited and/or Facebook Norway AS " - https://www.datatilsynet.no/contentassets/36ad4a92100943439d... Facebook Norway AS did, however, only have a revenue of about 6.6 million USD…

FB has datacenters in Denmark and Sweden, countries that are very friendly with Norway and that have plenty of treaties between them, such as the Helsinki Treaty. Piss one off enough and you might find that four countries go after you in sync.

And seizing those DC's is childs play for a nation state, where are they going to take them?

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