So what stops Facebook from just banning Norwegian users?
Google taking the advertising cake.
Facebook must pay $100.000 to Norway each day for violating our right to privacy
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#32So 36M USD per year? I wonder how that stacks against the profits they make from that market.
Think of it as a starting point. I'm all for applying network algorithms to fines like this: if you don't back off we'll double the fine. Every time it is levied.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exponential_backoff
And if the company can't pay then the execs are on the hook, everybody with a C-level title or a board seat. I would happily wager this would get even the largest entities into compliance within days, weeks at most.
Re: Facebook must pay $100.000 to Norway each day for violating our right to privacy
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or simply not complying. After all what can Norway do about it? Lol It reminds them of the Canada govt trying to make FB pay for news. Ehh... NOPE.
They can block FB in their country.
They don't have to, is the thing. If Facebook can't operate as a business in their country, then they can't collect advertising revenue there, can't run FB marketplace, etc.
Facebook has always had the option to not operate as a business in a country, that they do is because it's profitable to do so.
Re: Facebook must pay $100.000 to Norway each day for violating our right to privacy
#34So what stops Facebook from just banning Norwegian users?
Or simply not complying. After all what can Norway do about it? Lol It reminds them of the Canada govt trying to make FB pay for news. Ehh... NOPE.
Lol indeed: throw their execs in jail when they transit through a country with which they have an extradition agreement (plenty of precedent for that), freeze or seize their assets, block them at the ISP level (ISPs would have to play ball unless they themselves would want to be come a target).
The idea that some crap company outranks a nation state with millions of citizens is ridiculous.
Also: even though Norway isn't part of the EU (though it is in Schengen) they could bring a case in the EU courts and have Meta's assets in Ireland seized. That would really hurt if the court allowed it.
Re: Facebook must pay $100.000 to Norway each day for violating our right to privacy
#35So what stops Facebook from just banning Norwegian users?
Or simply not complying. After all what can Norway do about it? Lol It reminds them of the Canada govt trying to make FB pay for news. Ehh... NOPE.
I love you one causally goes about “can’t they just violate the law”
Fuck around and find out Facebook.
Re: Facebook must pay $100.000 to Norway each day for violating our right to privacy
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or simply not complying. After all what can Norway do about it? Lol It reminds them of the Canada govt trying to make FB pay for news. Ehh... NOPE.
They can freeze their assets. They can basically do everything you can do against a company that doesn't obey the law.
Correct. From what I can read in the decision letter, Metas local Norwegian subsidiary, named "Facebook Norway AS", is being held collectively responsible for "fine of up to NOK 1 000 000 per day of non-compliance on Meta Platforms Ireland Limited and/or Facebook Norway AS" - https://www.datatilsynet.no/contentassets/36ad4a92100943439d...
Facebook Norway AS did, however, only have a revenue of about 6.6 million USD in 2022, with a profit of 3.6 million USD, according to https://www.proff.no/selskap/facebook-norway-as/oslo/reklame... . They have 27 employees. The revenue from Norway are however much bigger and was speculated to be 233 million USD in 2021: https://e24.no/naeringsliv/i/A3r1Mz/facebook-bokfoerte-bare-...
Re: Facebook must pay $100.000 to Norway each day for violating our right to privacy
#37I find it interesting that the _smaller_ countries imposes these restrictions and fines as their way of generating revenue. $100,000 a day I can imagine is a fair bit for Norway.
I think you may want to peruse the CIA world factbook for bit to bring you up to date about Norway, in particular the 'Economy' section:
https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/countries/norway/#eco...
This fine represents no more than a very small fraction of a percent of Norway's GDP. Let's generously assume $1B / day, then $100k per day is 4 decimal orders of magnitude less or 0.01%.
Re: Facebook must pay $100.000 to Norway each day for violating our right to privacy
#38For those who think Norway is small compared to facebook, heres Norway's Wealth Fund in real time:
https://www.nbim.no/
Re: Facebook must pay $100.000 to Norway each day for violating our right to privacy
#39> The small country of Norway is taking on the tech giant. Will David be able to bring down Goliath? Kind of interesting that here the *country* is david while the *business* is goliath..
It's downright insulting. Norway is a country not a mere here today gone tomorrow company.
Some companies lasted longer than some countries
Re: Facebook must pay $100.000 to Norway each day for violating our right to privacy
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
No one uses 3 digits to represent cents, so nobody is going to interpret this as a hundred dollars a day.
"Falsehoods programmers believe about time^Wmoney (Reference to https://gist.github.com/timvisee/fcda9bbdff88d45cc9061606b4b... )
A decent list for this about prices and currency https://gist.github.com/rgs/6509585 and the full list of other falsehoods https://github.com/kdeldycke/awesome-falsehood