Petition to stop France from forcing browsers like Firefox to censor websites

Post by utybo » Thu, Aug 17, 2023, 3:58 PM UTC

ednxzu wrote: post #114

utybo wrote: post #96

As far as I understand it, this is only about implementing a blocklist for scam and phishing sites, like what Edge's SmartScreen already does. The agency in charge of this, Arcom, will have to comply to that requirement. While the principle in itself isn't great, this isn't as bad as Mozilla or comments on HN make it look like.

It is, until it isn't, and you don't want to put trust in the hands of a bunch of 70 y-o politicians to handle this.

Post by eigenket » Thu, Aug 17, 2023, 4:01 PM UTC

goodbyesf wrote: post #133

ednxzu wrote: post #124

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> the tech elite ( or more like the money elite controlling tech ) started talking about minority, lgbt and women's 'rights', they all started censoring, deplatforming, oppressing. That's an entirely different issue tho, a private company regulating its own product has nothing to do with a gov trying to restrict internet access to its citizens.

> That's an entirely different issue tho, a private company regulating its own product has nothing to do with a gov trying to restrict internet access to its citizens. That's my point. A private company regulating its own product is fine as long as it is private and independent. My point is that all 'private' companies appear to be following the same script which isn't something we'd expect from private independent c…

Post by LocalH » Thu, Aug 17, 2023, 4:10 PM UTC

stackedinserter wrote: post #92

bradley13 wrote: post #59

How do they expect to enforce this? Especially against open-source browsers, or companies without a presence in France? One disadvantage of globalization is that you get to see the dumb ideas of all politicians. Somehow, the good ideas don't cumulate the same way...

They can ban it from appstore/googleplay, with the provision that it should be banned for ALL countries, or else.

Post by ever1 » Thu, Aug 17, 2023, 4:16 PM UTC

embwbam wrote: post #116

FrenchDevRemote wrote: post #70

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France is really far from a planned economy. Marseille's worst neighborhoods are really chill compared to the bad parts of any American city. The streets are pretty safe. Your comment is kinda ridiculous, stop watching TV. Yeah there are lot of taxes, but those taxes come in handy when you can get 2 years of unemployment benefits when starting a company. Or when you know, get a cancer that would cost a few millions t…

My girlfriend had a poorly aimed egg thrown at her late at night in Marseille on a kebab run for wearing a short skirt in a Muslim neighborhood. Seems pretty rough to me!

Post by ever1 » Thu, Aug 17, 2023, 4:18 PM UTC

WeylandYutani wrote: post #50

TacticalCoder wrote: post #45

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> ... or to the benefit their friends owning private companies. Yup this one in France is really a big problem. The public sector spendings officially represents something like 58.1% of the french GDP (official "Insee" numbers from 2023, for 2022)... France is not far from a planned economy and, unsurprisingly, it's a particularly harsh environment for real small private SMEs (i.e. those without friends at the state)…

France has always been pretty bad at running an economy. Ofcourse for the rest of Europe this is a good thing- French military ambitions have been consistently sabotaged by this oversight. Good military, brilliant engineers and capable bureaucrats but terrible merchants. And wars are won on the stock market.