Firefox is open source. Bonne chance.
So what? So it Chromium but that doesn't stop Google from pushing whatever anti-consumer nonsense they want.
Petition to stop France from forcing browsers like Firefox to censor websites
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#132Someone please explain: if I fork Firefox or Chrome and delete the censorship code, then I publish it online (eg. in github with a download link), then next time I go to France I will get into trouble?
Nah it's fine, firefox has 4% market share, realistically even the french gov doesn't care about them
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#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
Exactly. Mozilla is one of the worst tech companies pretending to do good. Tech wasn't always like this. In the 00s, everyone was for free speech. Mozilla wasn't like this either. Hate to say it, but once the tech elite ( or more like the money elite controlling tech ) started talking about minority, lgbt and women's 'rights', they all started censoring, deplatforming, oppressing. Of course to fight 'hate speech' - w…
> the tech elite ( or more like the money elite controlling tech ) started talking about minority, lgbt and women's 'rights', they all started censoring, deplatforming, oppressing. That's an entirely different issue tho, a private company regulating its own product has nothing to do with a gov trying to restrict internet access to its citizens.
> That's an entirely different issue tho, a private company regulating its own product has nothing to do with a gov trying to restrict internet access to its citizens.
That's my point. A private company regulating its own product is fine as long as it is private and independent. My point is that all 'private' companies appear to be following the same script which isn't something we'd expect from private independent companies. What's strange is that someone flipped a switch and all private companies, both political parties and government itself started behaving in the same manner. It's not just online censorship, it's the broad cultural campaign of chaos all under the banner of 'minority, lgbt and women's rights' mostly. Did every company in every industry from motorcycles to hollywood to news all magically decide to speak with one voice. Or is it that they were all directed to.
In china, it's obvious who is in charge. The communist party. They give orders, everyone follows. Who is giving orders to the our private companies, political parties and government?
Re: Petition to stop France from forcing browsers like Firefox to censor websites
#134France should have listened to GNU/Stallman: You can't have an antifeature in free software. If you try, someone is just going to comment it out.
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#135Re: Petition to stop France from forcing browsers like Firefox to censor websites
#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
Me too but after talking to my MP about it I do wonder how much of it is because they (Meta) fundamentally support privacy and everything that comes with that or if it's just a convenient way to deny having any responsibility towards safety on their platforms. It's possible to be right, but for the wrong reasons. I'd like to think it's for the right reasons, but I'm not sure. If users really cared about privacy they'…
Well you could play the devil's advocate the same way. Is the UK government really caring about the children or do they just want more convenient power. If the citizens really cared about the future of their children they would not have elected a government that is a stinking pile of poop. One thing you should also have come to realise is that most politicians want surveillance power for themselves, but not for other…
> If the citizens really cared about the future of their children they would not have elected a government that is a stinking pile of poop
As always, I find myself unsure how many actively voted for the Eton Mess vs how many voted to keep out Socialist Santaclaus and his Singing Elves.
Both have been (de facto) kicked out of their respective parties since the last election, which says something about the terrible state of UK politics.
Re: Petition to stop France from forcing browsers like Firefox to censor websites
#137Firefox is open source. Bonne chance.
So what? So it Chromium but that doesn't stop Google from pushing whatever anti-consumer nonsense they want.
...and you can get Chromium without Google, easily, because it's open source.
Re: Petition to stop France from forcing browsers like Firefox to censor websites
#138I thought they wanted "more than deplatforming" https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/we-need-more-than-deplat... https://archive.today/ia2z4
Exactly. Mozilla is one of the worst tech companies pretending to do good. Tech wasn't always like this. In the 00s, everyone was for free speech. Mozilla wasn't like this either. Hate to say it, but once the tech elite ( or more like the money elite controlling tech ) started talking about minority, lgbt and women's 'rights', they all started censoring, deplatforming, oppressing. Of course to fight 'hate speech' - w…
That's quite a revisionist history. The early web was heavily moderated, just on a smaller scale.
>Hate to say it, but once the tech elite ( or more like the money elite controlling tech ) started talking about minority, lgbt and women's 'rights', they all started censoring, deplatforming, oppressing.
There's nothing stopping you from creating yet another "free speech" website. They typically fail because what the "tech elite" realize, along with most people, is that "free speech" websites devolve into people spamming racial slurs. Most people don't want to be around that.
>Of course to fight 'hate speech' - whatever that means
There is huge amounts of discourse on hate speech and what it means. There is plenty to read on the subject if you truly don't understand what it means.
>It's like someone or some group flipped a switch and everyone from business to politics started singing a different tune.
There was no switch. As the internet grew and became more diverse, the people who are typically the targets of hateful speech on the internet grew in their ability to influence companies. Back in the early 2000s, women avoided using a microphone because if they did, they would receive abuse or unwanted sexual comments. As the amount of women in video games increased, corporations become focused on the needs of their audience and how to make them feel welcome and buy more games. It's the same story for pretty much every other aspect of tech.
What you're imagining as some conspiracy to "oppress" (lol) you because you can't spam racial slurs or spread race-based conspiracy theories is actually marketing executives realizing that catering to the extremely small "freeze peach" audience that wants to post odious content isn't an actual winning strategy for growing your business.
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France is really far from a planned economy. Marseille's worst neighborhoods are really chill compared to the bad parts of any American city. The streets are pretty safe. Your comment is kinda ridiculous, stop watching TV. Yeah there are lot of taxes, but those taxes come in handy when you can get 2 years of unemployment benefits when starting a company. Or when you know, get a cancer that would cost a few millions t…
My girlfriend had a poorly aimed egg thrown at her late at night in Marseille on a kebab run for wearing a short skirt in a Muslim neighborhood. Seems pretty rough to me!
Which neighborhood/district? I don't know what you mean by muslim neighborhood. Most of the city is really multicultural.
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Rules exist to require messages be shown on phones - for example the emergency alert system for hurricanes. Doesn't seem unreasonable that computer OS's and/or web browsers be required to support the same.
Sure, we can all agree that this narrow use is in the interest of the public. Emphasis on narrow. It’s completely unreasonable to have a broad scope direct communication channel between the government and my browser or OS.
My government (UK) seems to struggle with communicating some things with citizens. There is no way so send a simple short message to every citizen.
For example, recently the law changed so that pedestrians had priority at 't' road junctions without traffic lights.
Ideally, every citizen would be send a small infographic showing the new law on the day it became law. They would click "okay" and go on with their day.
Instead, the government bought up TV ads and billboards across the country (very expensive) to try to get the message across - and still, months later, you have people honking horns and getting angry at pedestrians and drivers who don't know about the change.