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Re: Naomi Wu and the Silence That Speaks Volumes

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please dont draw an equivalence between the ussr and nazi germany. it is incredibly problematic.

Is it?

yes. do you believe the ussr perpetrated anything on the magnitude of the holocaust?

Re: Naomi Wu and the Silence That Speaks Volumes

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If I can find it again there's a really great video explaining how, to have free speech, you must restrict some speech. Because bad actors use speech and claims om they are "defending free speech!" in bad faith as a weapon to further their ends, and once they're in a position of power will shameless drop the pretenses and restrict any speech that doesn't entrench their position.

> If I can find it again there's a really great video explaining how, to have free speech, you must restrict some speech. It's nonsense. Constitutional governments with checks and balances can and do hold up to criticisms against them, even speech advocating against free speech. The paradox doesn't exist because the premise of the paradox, that tolerance of the intolerant inevitably results in the victory of the into…

>The paradox doesn't exist because the premise of the paradox, that tolerance of the intolerant inevitably results in the victory of the intolerant, isn't true.

The paradox doesn't apply to actors operating in good faith who simply disagree, but those whose intolerance extends to authoritarianism and violence in oppressing the free speech of their opponents, such as the Nazi regime that insipired it, and its truth seems self-evident. You'll have to explain to me how greater tolerance of the Nazis would have resulted in a better outcome for anyone (besides the Nazis) than intolerance of them in order to disprove the premise.

Re: Naomi Wu and the Silence That Speaks Volumes

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It's depressing how many Americans and Europeans seem utterly allergic to any kind of nuanced discussion or deeper understanding of China. I think the same applies to the former USSR. I'm not sure why this is.

I agree. It's a disgrace. The Chinese people should be allowed to exercise their democratic prerogative without foreign interference.

Re: Naomi Wu and the Silence That Speaks Volumes

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It's depressing how many Americans and Europeans seem utterly allergic to any kind of nuanced discussion or deeper understanding of China. I think the same applies to the former USSR. I'm not sure why this is.

Isn't it obvious that this is the result of the US state propaganda system? The US likes to pretend all speech is free, but it sure seems like the speech that supports the narratives of people with power get amplified 1000x.

Re: Naomi Wu and the Silence That Speaks Volumes

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I'm appalled that I'm only finding out about this now.

Am I being paranoid in thinking that Musk’s exposure in China & disdain for the LGBTQ community could lead him to lower the reach of tweets related to this issue?

They started doing that day one.

Re: Naomi Wu and the Silence That Speaks Volumes

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Why do you think it's easy for most to have nuanced, dispassionate discussions about the ancient Assyrians but not the Nazis? Spacial/temporal/ideological proximity. We're not likely to become anything like the former, but we fear ourselves (or at least our leadership) becoming more like the latter. Obviously it would be ideal to learn from the good aspects of even the most evil totalitarian regimes, but in practice…

please dont draw an equivalence between the ussr and nazi germany. it is incredibly problematic.

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Re: Naomi Wu and the Silence That Speaks Volumes

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Am I being paranoid in thinking that Musk’s exposure in China & disdain for the LGBTQ community could lead him to lower the reach of tweets related to this issue?

This was explicitly one of the things people were worried about when he bought Twitter. If you didn't notice this your personal filter bubble is giving you ideological blind spots.

This assumes filter bubble theory is true, which it isn't, because being exposed to things outside your bubble mainly makes you resent them even more because they're annoying.

Re: Naomi Wu and the Silence That Speaks Volumes

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Paleface is citing her as an example of such a western journalist...

This makes sense. “South Korean journalist” is a very clear way of saying “western journalist” also I’m sure “anti white racist” isn’t any sort of culture war word salad.

Explanation requested. I guess it's missing a hyphen but "anti white racist" is a pretty thin salad at three words and not especially ambiguous in terms of the politics it implies.

Re: Naomi Wu and the Silence That Speaks Volumes

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I don't know about Milo, but after looking at Wikipedia, it looks like Tucker grew up and so did his former audience.

Jury’s still out for a while, but Carlson’s being kicked out of Fox recently has been a big hit so far. Latest book sold 3k copies: https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/aug/15/tucker-carlson...

Tucker Max, not Carlson. He was a pick up artist/bro influencer.

Re: Naomi Wu and the Silence That Speaks Volumes

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This makes sense. “South Korean journalist” is a very clear way of saying “western journalist” also I’m sure “anti white racist” isn’t any sort of culture war word salad.

Explanation requested. I guess it's missing a hyphen but "anti white racist" is a pretty thin salad at three words and not especially ambiguous in terms of the politics it implies.

> not especially ambiguous in terms of the politics it implies.

What politics are those?

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