...and it may never have been a nefarious thing but a bug related to cookies or SSL activity on links and a myriad of other complicated things. Yes, Elon sucks but unsubstantiated nonsense that shouldn't have gotten beyond that HN post.
X has started reversing the throttling on some of the sites, including NYTimes'
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Re: X has started reversing the throttling on some of the sites, including NYTimes'
#52Can anyone actually provide any proof that this was an intentional/nefarious "throttle" by X. Using ten domains as an example is not evidence. Did anyone check the millions of sites on the internet? How do you know there were not lots of sites Elon "likes" that were being throttled? Did anyone test more than 100 domains? This could have easily been a bug. e.g. a bug that was happening temporarily because an in memory…
Because that would be impossible to prove, and Twitter’s owner has burned any expectation of good faith by lying, repeatedly, about the smallest issues. He said he wouldn’t ban the ElonJet account, and then he did: https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/dec/19/elon-musk/... He banned journalists who reported on it, banned links to Mastodon, Substack, and Threads, changed the algorithm to boost his own content, sl…
The previous management was hardly better. They banned the New York Post for daring to break the Hunter Biden laptop story.
Re: X has started reversing the throttling on some of the sites, including NYTimes'
#53...and it may never have been a nefarious thing but a bug related to cookies or SSL activity on links and a myriad of other complicated things. Yes, Elon sucks but unsubstantiated nonsense that shouldn't have gotten beyond that HN post.
If that were the case, it would be very appropriate for them to publicly acknowledge this with a root cause.
I don’t give them such benefit of the doubt because occams razor in this case is that the company has a vindictive and childish billionaire at the helm, with a history of prioritizing edgy and spiteful actions.
Re: X has started reversing the throttling on some of the sites, including NYTimes'
#54...and it may never have been a nefarious thing but a bug related to cookies or SSL activity on links and a myriad of other complicated things. Yes, Elon sucks but unsubstantiated nonsense that shouldn't have gotten beyond that HN post.
If that were the case, it would be very appropriate for them to publicly acknowledge this with a root cause. I don’t give them such benefit of the doubt because occams razor in this case is that the company has a vindictive and childish billionaire at the helm, with a history of prioritizing edgy and spiteful actions.
Fair enough yeah, I know he doesn't care about what ppl think, but would love to hear a proper explanation.
I couldn't even duplicate it for multiple NYT links on the site (last night). People were jumping to conclusions based on personal tests etc.
Anyways, usual sh*tshow all around, just kind of wary/embarassing to see it jump out of a random Tell HN: thread on here to news sites.
Re: X has started reversing the throttling on some of the sites, including NYTimes'
#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
If that were the case, it would be very appropriate for them to publicly acknowledge this with a root cause. I don’t give them such benefit of the doubt because occams razor in this case is that the company has a vindictive and childish billionaire at the helm, with a history of prioritizing edgy and spiteful actions.
Fair enough yeah, I know he doesn't care about what ppl think, but would love to hear a proper explanation. I couldn't even duplicate it for multiple NYT links on the site (last night). People were jumping to conclusions based on personal tests etc. Anyways, usual sh*tshow all around, just kind of wary/embarassing to see it jump out of a random Tell HN: thread on here to news sites.
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
I said nothing about whether I like Elon as a person or not.
I think once a pattern of behavior is established, this should reasonably inform your interpretation of their behavior. This is the "Boy who cried wolf" lesson. So, if someone lies a bunch, and they say something, it makes sense to ignore it. If you don't keep score, you'll be pilloried. If someone makes unethical moves (like taking peoples twitter handles or boosting alt-right memes), it makes sense to assume that u…
A post with no evidence, of some alleged action of the twitter url shortener, somehow becomes an Elon bad rant? "wholly untrustworthy or destructive" is only the case if you actually believe all the Verge headlines. What has been destroyed? Certainly not X which is growing in usage.
Your simplistic view of wanting to have a villian to hate who is always wrong and bad in everything they do is a very childish perspective, one that is sadly all too common online these days.
Re: X has started reversing the throttling on some of the sites, including NYTimes'
#57Direct link to the article https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/08/15/twitter... Related: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37136858
Thanks! Macroexpanded:
Tell HN: t.co is adding a five-second delay to some domains - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37130060 - Aug 2023 (337 comments)
Elon Musk’s X is throttling traffic to news and websites he dislikes - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37136858 - Aug 2023 (74 comments)
Re: X has started reversing the throttling on some of the sites, including NYTimes'
#58Can anyone actually provide any proof that this was an intentional/nefarious "throttle" by X. Using ten domains as an example is not evidence. Did anyone check the millions of sites on the internet? How do you know there were not lots of sites Elon "likes" that were being throttled? Did anyone test more than 100 domains? This could have easily been a bug. e.g. a bug that was happening temporarily because an in memory…
did you actually get the throttle on the 10 domains? I could not even get it on one, now that it's apparently reverted. Am I supposed to believe that Musk and his team is so dumb that they attempted to add a FIVE freaking seconds delay and thought they could get away?
Last night I tested the mentioned domains (bsky.social, nytimes.com, substack.com, threads.net) and a few dozen others by clicking every link I saw in my twitter feed for 20 minutes and observed the 4.5s delay on those mentioned domains but not on any others.
Re: X has started reversing the throttling on some of the sites, including NYTimes'
#59...and it may never have been a nefarious thing but a bug related to cookies or SSL activity on links and a myriad of other complicated things. Yes, Elon sucks but unsubstantiated nonsense that shouldn't have gotten beyond that HN post.
You’re asking way too much of the internet
Re: X has started reversing the throttling on some of the sites, including NYTimes'
#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think once a pattern of behavior is established, this should reasonably inform your interpretation of their behavior. This is the "Boy who cried wolf" lesson. So, if someone lies a bunch, and they say something, it makes sense to ignore it. If you don't keep score, you'll be pilloried. If someone makes unethical moves (like taking peoples twitter handles or boosting alt-right memes), it makes sense to assume that u…
A post with no evidence, of some alleged action of the twitter url shortener, somehow becomes an Elon bad rant? "wholly untrustworthy or destructive" is only the case if you actually believe all the Verge headlines. What has been destroyed? Certainly not X which is growing in usage. Your simplistic view of wanting to have a villian to hate who is always wrong and bad in everything they do is a very childish perspecti…
Your comment history appears to be solely pro-Tesla and pro-Musk, which suggests that you may need to reach a higher bar of support for your argument here. Calling someone's perspective childish is not especially constructive.