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Re: X has started reversing the throttling on some of the sites, including NYTimes'

#21
Are links to substack still being shadowbanned on twitter?

I think all this no freedom of reach or whatever anyone calls it, done by anyone, would be a lot easier to stomach if the settings and effect were completely public rather than secret.

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#22

Can anyone actually provide any proof that this was an intentional/nefarious "throttle" by X. Using ten domains as an example is not evidence. Did anyone check the millions of sites on the internet? How do you know there were not lots of sites Elon "likes" that were being throttled? Did anyone test more than 100 domains? This could have easily been a bug. e.g. a bug that was happening temporarily because an in memory…

did you actually get the throttle on the 10 domains? I could not even get it on one, now that it's apparently reverted.

Am I supposed to believe that Musk and his team is so dumb that they attempted to add a FIVE freaking seconds delay and thought they could get away?

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post #22

Can anyone actually provide any proof that this was an intentional/nefarious "throttle" by X. Using ten domains as an example is not evidence. Did anyone check the millions of sites on the internet? How do you know there were not lots of sites Elon "likes" that were being throttled? Did anyone test more than 100 domains? This could have easily been a bug. e.g. a bug that was happening temporarily because an in memory…

did you actually get the throttle on the 10 domains? I could not even get it on one, now that it's apparently reverted. Am I supposed to believe that Musk and his team is so dumb that they attempted to add a FIVE freaking seconds delay and thought they could get away?

“I can’t replicate this issue, now that the issue has been fixed” I don’t even know where to begin...

Re: X has started reversing the throttling on some of the sites, including NYTimes'

#24

I wish people would reject this brand, as with the-company-formerly-known-as-facebook. Pity.

There should be a higher bar for company names than co-opting a dictionary word or even just a letter. The lack of originality seems to be accelerating: first "Alphabet", then "Meta", and now "X"? (Honorable mention for "Apple".)

Re: X has started reversing the throttling on some of the sites, including NYTimes'

#26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37142000

I said nothing about whether I like Elon as a person or not.

I think once a pattern of behavior is established, this should reasonably inform your interpretation of their behavior. This is the "Boy who cried wolf" lesson. So, if someone lies a bunch, and they say something, it makes sense to ignore it. If you don't keep score, you'll be pilloried.

If someone makes unethical moves (like taking peoples twitter handles or boosting alt-right memes), it makes sense to assume that unethical behavior is more likely in the future. The reason people get angry with you is that you don't maintain the same "reputation score" in your head within the brackets they find acceptable. That is, I allow for variation in perception to some degree, but if at a certain point someone says something really admiring of someone who's proven to be wholly untrustworthy or destructive over and over again, as a matter of public record, I start to judge that person as unreliable and lacking in judgement. This often comes out as anger, I think because it's a simple way to use our social emotional brain to "keep score".

(This is particularly applicable for individuals and individual actions; it's more difficult to apply this rule for groups. For example, do you have great faith in "academia"? This may or may not be acceptable to me, depending on your definition and your knowledge.)

Re: X has started reversing the throttling on some of the sites, including NYTimes'

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure what meaning of freedom requires you to run a url redirector that has a similar response time for every single possible domain. If there was a rule that made it illegal to differ in response times, would that world be more, or less free?

I don't necessarily agree with the parent's implication, but the point they are making is that a lot of people defend some speech-controlling-but-not-illegal practices of social media sites using the exact same reasoning you are using in your post, and there was a lot of hype around Elon potentially being an opponent of that.

Even discounting this incident, finding people and organizations that Elon has banned from Twitter isn't even that hard. I find it very difficult to believe that people who claim that Elon is some sort of free speech absolutist actually believe what they say.

Re: X has started reversing the throttling on some of the sites, including NYTimes'

#29

Can anyone actually provide any proof that this was an intentional/nefarious "throttle" by X. Using ten domains as an example is not evidence. Did anyone check the millions of sites on the internet? How do you know there were not lots of sites Elon "likes" that were being throttled? Did anyone test more than 100 domains? This could have easily been a bug. e.g. a bug that was happening temporarily because an in memory…

Gish gallops are extremely unbecoming.

For those who didn't know (like me) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop

Also, lol

Re: X has started reversing the throttling on some of the sites, including NYTimes'

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Can anyone actually provide any proof that this was an intentional/nefarious "throttle" by X. Using ten domains as an example is not evidence. Did anyone check the millions of sites on the internet? How do you know there were not lots of sites Elon "likes" that were being throttled? Did anyone test more than 100 domains? This could have easily been a bug. e.g. a bug that was happening temporarily because an in memory…

Gish gallops are extremely unbecoming.

I feel like my questions are pretty rational and not exactly hard to answer if there were any data.

All I've seen is between 10-20 websites were tested by HN users.

And a whole lot of "inference" based off that.

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