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Tell HN: t.co is adding a five-second delay to some domains
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#152I think that HN itself also shadow flags submissions from a list of domains it doesn't like. Try submitting a URL from the following domains, and it will be automatically flagged (but you can't see it's flagged unless you log out): - archive.is - watcher.guru - stacker.news - zerohedge.com - freebeacon.com - thefederalist.com - breitbart.com
Isn't blocking Stacker.news a petty move?
It's basically HN, but you can earn small tips for submissions and comments.
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#153I can confirm. NYT shows a five-second redirect delay: "wget https://t.co/4fs609qwWt ". It redirects to gov.uk immediately: "wget https://t.co/iigzas6QBx "
It’s about 4.5 seconds for me https://imgur.com/a/qege0O9
4521ms according to curl
curl -A "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:109.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/117.0" -I "https://t.co/4fs609qwWt"
x-response-time: 4521Re: Tell HN: t.co is adding a five-second delay to some domains
#154I think that HN itself also shadow flags submissions from a list of domains it doesn't like. Try submitting a URL from the following domains, and it will be automatically flagged (but you can't see it's flagged unless you log out): - archive.is - watcher.guru - stacker.news - zerohedge.com - freebeacon.com - thefederalist.com - breitbart.com
Try submitting a URL from the following domains, and it will be automatically flagged (but you can't see its flagged unless you log out): - archive.is I can assure you that is Not the case with HN: on posting archive.is URL's, proof? Look at my comment postings : https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=archo Is it possible you have been shadow-banned for poor compliance to the [1]Guidelines & [2]FAQ's? [1] : https://…
I must admit that I've never really delved into the rules on what/how to post on HN.
For example, I've linked to my work, but it never occurred to me to use "Show HN".
Maybe this is no big deal? Or perhaps for new signups, it would be good to “soft force” them to read the FAQ?
Re: Tell HN: t.co is adding a five-second delay to some domains
#155Earlier quoted context omitted.
What is it if the information is freely available, to anyone asking, for a single domain they are trying to post at that time? It’s not secret, because they’ll be provided an answer if they email the mod team. It’s not free as in open source, because it isn’t available for anyone to download and study in full. So, since it’s not secret, is it public, or private? Since it’s not published in full but any query of LIMIT…
Content moderation systems often hide mod actions from the content author [1]. That's a secret. The opposite would be to show the author of the content some indicator that it's been removed, and I would call that transparent or disclosed moderation. Interestingly, your comment first appeared to me as "* * *" with no author [2]. I wonder if that is some kind of ban. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e6BIkKBZpg [2]…
It's not a ban. It appears when the user has 'delay' in their profile set to N minutes and N minutes haven't elapsed yet. We should probably make this more explicit.
Re the 'delay' setting see https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html.
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#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, yes, many sites are banned on HN. Others are penalized (see e.g. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... ). None of this is secret, though we don't publish the lists themselves. Edit: about 67k sites are banned on HN. Here's a random selection of 10 of them: vodlockertv.com biggboss.org infoocode.com newyorkpersonalinjuryattorneyblog.com moringajuice.wordpress.com surrogacymumbai.com max…
radio.com looks legit, what is wrong with it?
I just get 'This site isn't currently available in the EU'
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#157Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, yes, many sites are banned on HN. Others are penalized (see e.g. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... ). None of this is secret, though we don't publish the lists themselves. Edit: about 67k sites are banned on HN. Here's a random selection of 10 of them: vodlockertv.com biggboss.org infoocode.com newyorkpersonalinjuryattorneyblog.com moringajuice.wordpress.com surrogacymumbai.com max…
radio.com looks legit, what is wrong with it?
We probably banned it because https://web.archive.org/web/20201027012245/https://kroq.radi... (posted to HN here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18253701) was spam.
I haven't dug into the logs, but most probably we saw that https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=thebottomline was spamming HN and banned the sites that they were spamming.
Edit: if you (i.e. anyone) click on those links and don't see anything, it's because we killed the posts. You can turn on 'showdead' in your profile to see killed posts. (This is in the FAQ: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html.) Just please don't forget that you turned it on, because it's basically signing up to see the worst that the internet has to offer, and sometimes people forget that they turned it on and then email us complaining about what they see on HN.
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#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
And you don't see that as censorship?
The word censorship has so many meanings that I have to ask what you mean by it before I can say whether I see it that way. Is it censorship that the rules of chess say you can't poke someone's queen off the board? We're trying to play a particular game here.
Censorship has a very defined meaning. To take the chess analogy, it would be like allowing one side to poke the queen off the board, and not allow the other. This is very much like what happens at HN today.
You're dang right, trying to play a particular [rigged] game here.
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It is a secret if the system does not inform the poster it's been penalized.
There's a lot of user hostile moderation practices that occur on this site, manual and automatic. They're not often, or really at all, discussed. Some of them don't work well, and haven't for as long as they've existed.
I don't want us to be user hostile. Can you link to some examples?
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#160Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, yes, many sites are banned on HN. Others are penalized (see e.g. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... ). None of this is secret, though we don't publish the lists themselves. Edit: about 67k sites are banned on HN. Here's a random selection of 10 of them: vodlockertv.com biggboss.org infoocode.com newyorkpersonalinjuryattorneyblog.com moringajuice.wordpress.com surrogacymumbai.com max…
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By that logic, the fact that penispowerworldwide.com is banned on HN* means we're biased against your politics.
Of the 67k sites banned on HN I would guess that fewer than 0.1% are "news sources", left- or right- or any wing. Why would you expect them to show up in a random sample of 10?
* which it is! I've unkilled https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1236054 for the occasion.