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Re: Azure ChatGPT: Private and secure ChatGPT for internal enterprise use

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Post by ilyt »

mritchie712 wrote: post #54
simmerup wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If anything it's less productive because people have to parse all that nonsense. I was gobsmacked to hear a friend say that their work guidance is to use ChatGPT to write letters to external clients for example. I know for sure I'd be insulted if someone sent me paragraphs of text to read created from a sentence long prompt. I'd rather have the prompt, my time is valuable as well.

ahhhh, but they're pasting the 3 page email into ChatGPT ("summarize this"). The future is here.

Wouldn't be surprised if that was next Outlook feature.

Cue someone making some horrible error because some crucial information didn't survive ChatGPT->ChatGPT round-trip

Re: Azure ChatGPT: Private and secure ChatGPT for internal enterprise use

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Post by kossTKR »

mritchie712 wrote: post #54
simmerup wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If anything it's less productive because people have to parse all that nonsense. I was gobsmacked to hear a friend say that their work guidance is to use ChatGPT to write letters to external clients for example. I know for sure I'd be insulted if someone sent me paragraphs of text to read created from a sentence long prompt. I'd rather have the prompt, my time is valuable as well.

ahhhh, but they're pasting the 3 page email into ChatGPT ("summarize this"). The future is here.

Yeah that's one of the insane things that will happen.

Very soon everyone will in effect "hide" behind an agent that will take all kinds of decisions on one's behalf. Everything from writing e-mails to proposals but also to sue someone, make financial decisions, and be a filter that transforms everything going in or out.

I can't imagine this world really. How the hell are people going to compete or stand out? Doesn't it seem that what little meritocracy existed wills soon drown in noise?

Re: Azure ChatGPT: Private and secure ChatGPT for internal enterprise use

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Post by kenjackson »

simmerup wrote: post #52
Ecstatify wrote: post #46

Our company is pushing everyone to use a similar offering. Most of the company is doing low value work … still using excels even though we have a custom ERP. Now seeing people who couldn’t write a coherent email before write 3 page emails. The illusion of being productive by doing more work even though it has zero impact on the bottom line. It’s insane how inefficient organisations are. No doubt we’ll have some KPI s…

If anything it's less productive because people have to parse all that nonsense. I was gobsmacked to hear a friend say that their work guidance is to use ChatGPT to write letters to external clients for example. I know for sure I'd be insulted if someone sent me paragraphs of text to read created from a sentence long prompt. I'd rather have the prompt, my time is valuable as well.

I think the more common case is to have a handful of bullet points and some notes and ask chat GOT to put into a coherent letter for an external customer with the goal of XYZ. I’ve done similar things and it is a huge timesaver. I still have to edit it, but it gives me a start that’s probably on par to what a Junior engineer would write as a first draft.

Re: Azure ChatGPT: Private and secure ChatGPT for internal enterprise use

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Post by ElFitz »

zardo wrote: post #24
Y_Y wrote: post #3

So the public access one isn't private and secure?

Unless you have an NDA with Open AI, you are giving them whatever you put in that prompt.

Also, at some point some users ended up with other users’ chat history [0]. So they’ve proven to be a bit weak on that side.

[0]: https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/21/23649806/chatgpt-chat-his...

Re: Azure ChatGPT: Private and secure ChatGPT for internal enterprise use

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Post by nixgeek »

Scoundreller wrote: post #49
nixgeek wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GitHub was acquired by Microsoft, and they are no longer legally separate entities. Microsoft is an investor in OpenAI, but does not own it, and they are legally separate companies. OpenAI is not Microsoft and it is factually incorrect to claim that OpenAI is Microsoft. [1] https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2023/01/23/microsoftandopen...

But saying they're just an investor isn't quite doing the arrangement the justice it deserves. There seems to be a lot of strings attached to that investment. It's not just a straight trade of dollars for shares, but many further contractual obligations.

I understand that perception but "seems to be a lot of strings" is all that is publicly known. None of those further obligations seem to have been disclosed. Without that disclosure it's a bit of a conspiracy theory?

Thus, it could very well be OpenAI has taken dollars, is commercially selling its technology to Microsoft on terms which aren't special, and sama and the OpenAI executive team and board has independently concluded that engaging in the partnership is a stellar way to grow their OpenAI brand, business and valuation?

Re: Azure ChatGPT: Private and secure ChatGPT for internal enterprise use

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Post by klabb3 »

simmerup wrote: post #52
Ecstatify wrote: post #46

Our company is pushing everyone to use a similar offering. Most of the company is doing low value work … still using excels even though we have a custom ERP. Now seeing people who couldn’t write a coherent email before write 3 page emails. The illusion of being productive by doing more work even though it has zero impact on the bottom line. It’s insane how inefficient organisations are. No doubt we’ll have some KPI s…

If anything it's less productive because people have to parse all that nonsense. I was gobsmacked to hear a friend say that their work guidance is to use ChatGPT to write letters to external clients for example. I know for sure I'd be insulted if someone sent me paragraphs of text to read created from a sentence long prompt. I'd rather have the prompt, my time is valuable as well.

Exactly right. If you increase entropy you need energy to reduce it back. It be more valuable to take crap that humans have put together incoherently and summarizing it. (Perhaps someone should put a GPT on the other end in order to read it)

I honestly don’t know why we’re so obsessed with having LLMs generate crap. Especially when they’re very capable of reducing, simplifying. Imagine penetrating legal texts, political bills, obtuse technical writing, academic papers and making sense of those quickly. Much more useful imo.

Re: Azure ChatGPT: Private and secure ChatGPT for internal enterprise use

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Post by pamelafox »

bouke wrote: post #26

How is this different from the other OpenAI GUI? Why another one by Microsoft? https://github.com/microsoft/sample-app-aoai-chatGPT .

This is an internal ChatGPT, whereas that sample is ChatGPT constrained to internal search results (using RAG approach). Source: I help maintain the RAG samples.

Re: Azure ChatGPT: Private and secure ChatGPT for internal enterprise use

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Post by svaha1728 »

littlestymaar wrote: post #4

“private and secure” from the company that let contractor listen to your private Teams conversation for data labeling purpose, and monitor your activity on your own computer with their OS…

Move fast and break things, including basic security. Why anyone trusts Azure that all these prompts won't eventually be leaked is beyond me. No one goes broke trusting Azure, but I'd love it if someone was held responsible.

https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2023/08/microsoft-sig...

Re: Azure ChatGPT: Private and secure ChatGPT for internal enterprise use

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Post by behnamoh »

infinityio wrote: post #57
behnamoh wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is kinda creepy. But at the same time, how do they do that? I thought the training of these models stopped in September 2021/2022. So how do they do these incremental trainings?

The exact phrase they previously used on the homepage was "Limited knowledge of world and events after 2021" - so maybe as a finetune?

but doesn’t finetuning result in forgetting previous knowledge? it seems that finetuning is most usable to train “structures” not new knowledge. am i missing something?

Re: Azure ChatGPT: Private and secure ChatGPT for internal enterprise use

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Post by simmerup »

kossTKR wrote: post #62
mritchie712 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ahhhh, but they're pasting the 3 page email into ChatGPT ("summarize this"). The future is here.

Yeah that's one of the insane things that will happen. Very soon everyone will in effect "hide" behind an agent that will take all kinds of decisions on one's behalf. Everything from writing e-mails to proposals but also to sue someone, make financial decisions, and be a filter that transforms everything going in or out. I can't imagine this world really. How the hell are people going to compete or stand out? Doesn't…

I was scared about organizations doing this and losing their connection to the humans they serve.

The realization that individuals will also have this barrier to the world is even scarier.

If it goes that way we could be looking at a change to society on the level of social media, again. Mad.

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