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YouTube gets more aggressive in pushing adblock warnings with countdown timer

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Re: YouTube gets more aggressive in pushing adblock warnings with countdown timer

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Wait, you actually believe that Incognito Mode gives you privacy? Have you looked into that with facts and data?

What other option is there?

That depends on your goals, the scope of the privacy you wish to achieve, and the services you wish to use while preserving that privacy.

Re: YouTube gets more aggressive in pushing adblock warnings with countdown timer

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Yeah, still not budging. They keep shoving multiple obnoxious ads every few minutes in the video. It is the same as the predatory monetization approach in the (mobile) gaming industry where authors makes the original product so awful deliberately only so they can shove subscription down your throat. Basically selling you solution for a problem they created. Screw that mentality, not paying them. And I don't mind payi…

Not sure if it's true, but what you're writing makes it sound like you feel entitled to use their product for free. Not a compelling argument.

I don't. That's why I explicitly wrote that I don't mind paying for a service and also gave an example of another service I'm paying for... See the very last sentence in my post.

edit: To make it really clear, Odysee is not the only thing I'm paying for. I'm also paying for example for Apple Family, HBO GO, Spotify, mailhosting etc. I'm also sponsoring SponsorBlock extension. As I said: I don't have a problem with paying for a product or service. I have a big problem when someone deliberately and needlesly cripples a product just so they can sell you a solution to the (unnecessary) problem they artificially created. I mean: Background play behind a paywall? Really? Is that the bar that we think is acceptable these days?

Re: YouTube gets more aggressive in pushing adblock warnings with countdown timer

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How about stopping using Gmail then?

Aside from the issue here, and the PRIVACY mess, it's the best thing since email was invented. Availability, universally accepted, free (to the product: you), large storage, easy to use. There is no serious competition, and I say this as a Hotmail user since well before Larry and Sergey opened their doors. I have a vanity domain which MX's to Gmail so I can move it to another service _when_ they bumrush me, but I don…

I don't know about good free alternative with support etc. That's also why I'm paying ~50$/year for a mailserver hosting - I've moved from gmail to just that and so far I'm quite happy.

Maybe someday I will spin up my mailserver also, but for now this is quite good balance between convenience & price for me.

Re: YouTube gets more aggressive in pushing adblock warnings with countdown timer

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The first day my adblocker stops working is the last day I'll be on that site. No big loss for me.

Agreed. I even stopped using Safari on Mac when uBlock stopped working way back in Catalina. Even though I had to get rid of Apple Pay and good battery life.

Re: YouTube gets more aggressive in pushing adblock warnings with countdown timer

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I don’t want to give Google my credit card, because in case of any problem/litigation, they can take away my Gmail. They’ve painted themselves in a corner with routinely deleting accounts for political reasons.

How about stopping using Gmail then?

Dunno about you all, but I refuse to leave my email on American servers. Privacy doubleplusungood.

Re: YouTube gets more aggressive in pushing adblock warnings with countdown timer

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Youtube also lies regularly about the current quality. I often see 1080p (Auto) or 720p (Auto) which it selects by default. But when I reselect it manually, because it’s clear that it’s not, it suddenly starts rebuffering. Happens all the time.

It's not exactly lying per se, but i suspect what's happening is that the player is trying to buffer the higher resolution version of the video stream, while playing the lower resolution (so as not to interrupt the video). However, the higher res stream is taking a while to download, and if that happens, the current video position has surpassed the buffered high-res video length, and so the process starts again (and…

while playing the lower resolution (so as not to interrupt the video)

That is another thing, which I don’t mind (if I understand it right). Sometimes internet becomes worse temporarily and that approach is okay.

But in the described case it plays a whole video in this hypothetical “mode”, never trying to go up. My internet is not greatest, but when I switch from “720p (Auto)” to “720p” it takes only a couple of seconds to then play it without any further interruptions. It doesn’t add up. I believe they are simply saving traffic on those who look at the quality setting and either think “well, maybe it’s just shitty bitrate 720/1080p” or have no clue at all.

Re: YouTube gets more aggressive in pushing adblock warnings with countdown timer

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It's not exactly lying per se, but i suspect what's happening is that the player is trying to buffer the higher resolution version of the video stream, while playing the lower resolution (so as not to interrupt the video). However, the higher res stream is taking a while to download, and if that happens, the current video position has surpassed the buffered high-res video length, and so the process starts again (and…

while playing the lower resolution (so as not to interrupt the video) That is another thing, which I don’t mind (if I understand it right). Sometimes internet becomes worse temporarily and that approach is okay. But in the described case it plays a whole video in this hypothetical “mode”, never trying to go up. My internet is not greatest, but when I switch from “720p (Auto)” to “720p” it takes only a couple of secon…

Rock solid 300/100 Mbps here, I've noticed the same behavior. It's either intentional or buggy and given how long it's been going on now, I don't think it's buggy. Don't let people convince you it's your internet connection.

Re: YouTube gets more aggressive in pushing adblock warnings with countdown timer

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I've never seen an anti-adblock message on YouTube. Do they only appear when people use crappy (likely malware) adblock extensions?

It's in the rollout phase. They generally don't test features or design changes globally and at once.

I've also heard of YouTube bypassing ad blockers every now and again, but again that's never happened to me.
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