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YouTube gets more aggressive in pushing adblock warnings with countdown timer

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Post by ssl232 »

phildenhoff wrote: post #4

While I disagree with trying to prevent Adblock, I’m a recent convert to YouTube premium and it’s just so nice. I only tried it after using my girlfriend’s account on our TV for a bit, I was vehemently against it prior. Am I super happy about paying for YouTube? No. Is it worth ~CAD$30/mo to not worry about ads anywhere, have background playback on mobile, and support the folks I watch? Absolutely.

I'd pay maybe $5/month max, which is infinitely more than they make from me now given I block everything and have as far as I recall never willingly clicked on an internet ad in my life.

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Post by yummypaint »

_V_ wrote: post #6

Yeah, still not budging. They keep shoving multiple obnoxious ads every few minutes in the video. It is the same as the predatory monetization approach in the (mobile) gaming industry where authors makes the original product so awful deliberately only so they can shove subscription down your throat. Basically selling you solution for a problem they created. Screw that mentality, not paying them. And I don't mind payi…

Agreed, it makes a difference how a service came to be in its current state. The present offerings are the product of a long decline after years of deliberate enshitification. Don't support the rent seekers at google.

Re: YouTube gets more aggressive in pushing adblock warnings with countdown timer

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Post by eastbound »

_V_ wrote: post #6

Yeah, still not budging. They keep shoving multiple obnoxious ads every few minutes in the video. It is the same as the predatory monetization approach in the (mobile) gaming industry where authors makes the original product so awful deliberately only so they can shove subscription down your throat. Basically selling you solution for a problem they created. Screw that mentality, not paying them. And I don't mind payi…

I don’t want to give Google my credit card, because in case of any problem/litigation, they can take away my Gmail. They’ve painted themselves in a corner with routinely deleting accounts for political reasons.

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Post by matsemann »

phildenhoff wrote: post #4

While I disagree with trying to prevent Adblock, I’m a recent convert to YouTube premium and it’s just so nice. I only tried it after using my girlfriend’s account on our TV for a bit, I was vehemently against it prior. Am I super happy about paying for YouTube? No. Is it worth ~CAD$30/mo to not worry about ads anywhere, have background playback on mobile, and support the folks I watch? Absolutely.

$30 a month?? No way I'd consider YT worth as much as all other streaming services combined..

Maybe I'd consider $3. Especially since even "ad free" videoes themselves now have lots of ads baked into them by the creators. Not a fan of the double dipping.

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Post by eastbound »

IcyClAyMptHe wrote: post #9
phildenhoff wrote: post #4

While I disagree with trying to prevent Adblock, I’m a recent convert to YouTube premium and it’s just so nice. I only tried it after using my girlfriend’s account on our TV for a bit, I was vehemently against it prior. Am I super happy about paying for YouTube? No. Is it worth ~CAD$30/mo to not worry about ads anywhere, have background playback on mobile, and support the folks I watch? Absolutely.

my problems are 1. it's insanely expensive for what you get, and 2. background play was a feature everyone had until google put it behind a paywall. finally, without something like sponsorblock you still end up with ads uploaded as part of the video. I can't overstate how much I despise advertising.

Send the video to yourself via Whatsapp. It plays in the background.

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Post by thomassmith65 »

phildenhoff wrote: post #4

While I disagree with trying to prevent Adblock, I’m a recent convert to YouTube premium and it’s just so nice. I only tried it after using my girlfriend’s account on our TV for a bit, I was vehemently against it prior. Am I super happy about paying for YouTube? No. Is it worth ~CAD$30/mo to not worry about ads anywhere, have background playback on mobile, and support the folks I watch? Absolutely.

  Am I super happy about paying for YouTube?
I would gladly pay money for Youtube, but I'd sooner eat a live subway rat than pay money to Youtube.

Even if I believed a for-profit model were appropriate for the largest repository of the world's video content, I wouldn't want AlphaGoogle to be the company implementing that model.

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Post by keiferski »

phildenhoff wrote: post #4

While I disagree with trying to prevent Adblock, I’m a recent convert to YouTube premium and it’s just so nice. I only tried it after using my girlfriend’s account on our TV for a bit, I was vehemently against it prior. Am I super happy about paying for YouTube? No. Is it worth ~CAD$30/mo to not worry about ads anywhere, have background playback on mobile, and support the folks I watch? Absolutely.

Same here. Apparently paying for products is a controversial thing these days. Never mind that the monthly cost is about the same as a single meal at an average fast-casual restaurant.

$20 a month for unlimited, unrestricted access to literally millions of hours of high quality content is a really good deal. I regret having waited so long and wasted so much time waiting to click through ads.

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Post by chii »

wruza wrote: post #10

Youtube also lies regularly about the current quality. I often see 1080p (Auto) or 720p (Auto) which it selects by default. But when I reselect it manually, because it’s clear that it’s not, it suddenly starts rebuffering. Happens all the time.

It's not exactly lying per se, but i suspect what's happening is that the player is trying to buffer the higher resolution version of the video stream, while playing the lower resolution (so as not to interrupt the video). However, the higher res stream is taking a while to download, and if that happens, the current video position has surpassed the buffered high-res video length, and so the process starts again (and the end result is that the user end up downloading chunks of the high-res video, but never watching any of it).

This is why i prefer to force high-res in the first place, and have it buffer enough to play the entire video without stopping. Unfortunately, google considers this wasted bandwidth, or something...this option is not available unless you use browser mods to do it.

Re: YouTube gets more aggressive in pushing adblock warnings with countdown timer

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Post by chii »

thomassmith65 wrote: post #17
phildenhoff wrote: post #4

While I disagree with trying to prevent Adblock, I’m a recent convert to YouTube premium and it’s just so nice. I only tried it after using my girlfriend’s account on our TV for a bit, I was vehemently against it prior. Am I super happy about paying for YouTube? No. Is it worth ~CAD$30/mo to not worry about ads anywhere, have background playback on mobile, and support the folks I watch? Absolutely.

Am I super happy about paying for YouTube? I would gladly pay money for Youtube, but I'd sooner eat a live subway rat than pay money to Youtube. Even if I believed a for-profit model were appropriate for the largest repository of the world's video content, I wouldn't want AlphaGoogle to be the company implementing that model.

So if youtube wasn't owned by google, you'd be happy to have paid?

I actually think this is irrational, because reason google is forcing thru anti-consumer features is _because_ they can't get enough revenue out of youtube!

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