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YouTube gets more aggressive in pushing adblock warnings with countdown timer

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Re: YouTube gets more aggressive in pushing adblock warnings with countdown timer

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Post by lysp »

phildenhoff wrote: post #4

While I disagree with trying to prevent Adblock, I’m a recent convert to YouTube premium and it’s just so nice. I only tried it after using my girlfriend’s account on our TV for a bit, I was vehemently against it prior. Am I super happy about paying for YouTube? No. Is it worth ~CAD$30/mo to not worry about ads anywhere, have background playback on mobile, and support the folks I watch? Absolutely.

If you live in Turkey, or happen to "visit" there for a short period of time, Youtube premium is $15cad / $11usd for 12 month subscription, or alterantively a few dollars a month.

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Post by esyir »

ssl232 wrote: post #11
phildenhoff wrote: post #4

While I disagree with trying to prevent Adblock, I’m a recent convert to YouTube premium and it’s just so nice. I only tried it after using my girlfriend’s account on our TV for a bit, I was vehemently against it prior. Am I super happy about paying for YouTube? No. Is it worth ~CAD$30/mo to not worry about ads anywhere, have background playback on mobile, and support the folks I watch? Absolutely.

I'd pay maybe $5/month max, which is infinitely more than they make from me now given I block everything and have as far as I recall never willingly clicked on an internet ad in my life.

Sounds like they're justified for blocking you then.

Re: YouTube gets more aggressive in pushing adblock warnings with countdown timer

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Post by ssl232 »

esyir wrote: post #32
ssl232 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd pay maybe $5/month max, which is infinitely more than they make from me now given I block everything and have as far as I recall never willingly clicked on an internet ad in my life.

Sounds like they're justified for blocking you then.

Even though $5 > ~$0?

Re: YouTube gets more aggressive in pushing adblock warnings with countdown timer

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Post by dharmab »

matsemann wrote: post #15
phildenhoff wrote: post #4

While I disagree with trying to prevent Adblock, I’m a recent convert to YouTube premium and it’s just so nice. I only tried it after using my girlfriend’s account on our TV for a bit, I was vehemently against it prior. Am I super happy about paying for YouTube? No. Is it worth ~CAD$30/mo to not worry about ads anywhere, have background playback on mobile, and support the folks I watch? Absolutely.

$30 a month?? No way I'd consider YT worth as much as all other streaming services combined.. Maybe I'd consider $3. Especially since even "ad free" videoes themselves now have lots of ads baked into them by the creators. Not a fan of the double dipping.

If you pay in UAH, it's only $3 ;)

Re: YouTube gets more aggressive in pushing adblock warnings with countdown timer

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Post by PebblesHD »

I don’t know if it’s the same in the other ‘developed but not America’ economies but Youtube premium is really expensive in Australia. It’s literally double the price of a Netflix subscription and represents way less ‘value’ for me.

Part of that could be the bundled music subscription, which has zero value for me when I use and prefer Spotify, but it just seems like a very expensive niche product here which makes me surprised they’re pushing it so hard. They have a straight ad-free offering in some markets that seems much closer to something I’d actually pay for.

Lose the music stuff and charge A$9.99 a month and you’d have me.

Edit: I realised I was looking at the Apple subscription price at $19.99 for an individual rather than the online sign-up one. $14.99 still seems too high when my entire Amazon subscription with a video service and free-delivery is still roughly $10/mo.

Re: YouTube gets more aggressive in pushing adblock warnings with countdown timer

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Post by gameoverhumans »

chii wrote: post #20
thomassmith65 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Am I super happy about paying for YouTube? I would gladly pay money for Youtube, but I'd sooner eat a live subway rat than pay money to Youtube. Even if I believed a for-profit model were appropriate for the largest repository of the world's video content, I wouldn't want AlphaGoogle to be the company implementing that model.

So if youtube wasn't owned by google, you'd be happy to have paid? I actually think this is irrational, because reason google is forcing thru anti-consumer features is _because_ they can't get enough revenue out of youtube!

Youtube generates tens of billions of dollars in revenue per year, for a company that generates hundreds of billions of dollars in revenue per year.

If you're skeptical about how/if massive corporations are able to leverage their market power and monopolization to generate monstrous profits and force through very anti-consumer features, I'd encourage you to read Goliath from Matt Stoller: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Goliath/Matt-Stoller/...

Re: YouTube gets more aggressive in pushing adblock warnings with countdown timer

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Post by thenickdude »

phildenhoff wrote: post #4

While I disagree with trying to prevent Adblock, I’m a recent convert to YouTube premium and it’s just so nice. I only tried it after using my girlfriend’s account on our TV for a bit, I was vehemently against it prior. Am I super happy about paying for YouTube? No. Is it worth ~CAD$30/mo to not worry about ads anywhere, have background playback on mobile, and support the folks I watch? Absolutely.

Wow, here in New Zealand I'm only paying 10 NZD/month (8.04 CAD), grandfathered in from when it used to be a Google Play Music subscription.

It's fantastic value for that price, but I would definitely think twice at 30 CAD/month.

Re: YouTube gets more aggressive in pushing adblock warnings with countdown timer

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Post by bagels »

chii wrote: post #19
wruza wrote: post #10

Youtube also lies regularly about the current quality. I often see 1080p (Auto) or 720p (Auto) which it selects by default. But when I reselect it manually, because it’s clear that it’s not, it suddenly starts rebuffering. Happens all the time.

It's not exactly lying per se, but i suspect what's happening is that the player is trying to buffer the higher resolution version of the video stream, while playing the lower resolution (so as not to interrupt the video). However, the higher res stream is taking a while to download, and if that happens, the current video position has surpassed the buffered high-res video length, and so the process starts again (and…

They're optimizing for not buffering. It's one of the key metrics they track for service health.

Re: YouTube gets more aggressive in pushing adblock warnings with countdown timer

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Post by bsder »

chii wrote: post #20
thomassmith65 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Am I super happy about paying for YouTube? I would gladly pay money for Youtube, but I'd sooner eat a live subway rat than pay money to Youtube. Even if I believed a for-profit model were appropriate for the largest repository of the world's video content, I wouldn't want AlphaGoogle to be the company implementing that model.

So if youtube wasn't owned by google, you'd be happy to have paid? I actually think this is irrational, because reason google is forcing thru anti-consumer features is _because_ they can't get enough revenue out of youtube!

> So if youtube wasn't owned by google, you'd be happy to have paid?

Maybe.

YouTube should have to police copyright for the little guys as strongly as they do for the big guys. Instead, YouTube is happy to flat out steal content from little guys while stomping all over fair use when the big guys are involved.

I don't wish to support that. I want YouTube to go under so we can maybe get a video site that doesn't suck.

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