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Re: Canonical’s recruitment process is long and complex

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Post by st3fan »

hpcjoe wrote: post #56
dcminter wrote: post #8

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On paper Canonical is a company I'd rather enjoy working for. I love the product (despite its flaws) and have a lot of relevant experience. I wouldn't even object to the long interview process as such. Written materials? Sure! I'd love to see the bar raised on developers' writing skills! Why not. But man, that High School question? The implicit agism and the shere fuck-you irrelevance of my circumstances 35 years ago…

I just went through this process. Got autorejected after the personality/IQ test thing. My essay was 13 pages. As for notable things I've done, I worked on an experiment in undergrad, which won the PI (small group) the Nobel in physics in the late 90s, writing computer software for experiment control. That and getting a PhD in physics from a student of a student of a different Nobel laureate. I founded and ran my own…

> I just went through this process. Got autorejected after the personality/IQ test thing. My essay was 13 pages.

Same! 30 years of experience. Technical and management. I applied to two roles and both auto rejected. I had contact with a human once to ask if I had a change at all since I don’t have a university degree and was told to not bother.

Their loss.

Re: Canonical’s recruitment process is long and complex

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Post by deaddodo »

gamblor956 wrote: post #427
deaddodo wrote: post #195

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> So much more hardware and software (esp. media playback) worked out of the box than any other distro at the time SuSE and other mainstream distros worked "out-of-the box" just as well, or better, than the early Ubuntu versions. Fedora, Debian, etc didn't not work because they couldn't, but they were trying to make a point about free software and what that meant, so they took a strict stance on included licensed cod…

It was 2 minutes of adding RPMForge to your repos to fix, however. From a technical users' perspective, super easy...if you already knew what to do, or what to search for to figure out what to do. The point was that with Ubuntu, you didn't even need to do that, so non-technical users could use it without hassle, and this was the entire point of Ubuntu.

> The point was that with Ubuntu, you didn't even need to do that, so non-technical users could use it without hassle, and this was the entire point of Ubuntu.

The point was, other popular distros were doing that 4+ years before Ubuntu was. Fedora and Debian were just about the only major Linux distros that didn't include them. Just like how other distros had better installers, better themes/user experiences, etc than Ubuntu:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37068058

Also, if you had the "technical skill" to even know to download Fedora, I find it baffling that you didn't have the skill to type "nvidia drivers fedora" into Google. People were doing the same thing for Windows for a decade+ at that time.

Sure, Ubuntu eventually became nice-looking and easy to install. But they didn't innovate those things in anyway. Instead, they became so off the backs of a bunch of other communities doing real hard work and contributing nothing themselves.

Re: Canonical’s recruitment process is long and complex

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Post by lannisterstark »

hluska wrote: post #424
lannisterstark wrote: post #413

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Wait till you hear how much of an asshole RMS and Linus (to degree) are. What's next on your trip, go full time on Microsoft?

Why are you this obsessed with defending this particular dude??

Where precisely was I 'defending' anyone, nonetheless 'obsessing' over it? hm? care to provide some citations? This isn't reddit.

I wrote one line of facetious comment. Definition of "obsessed" and "defending" are clear cut. Words have meaning.

Re: Canonical’s recruitment process is long and complex

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Post by [deleted] »

hluska wrote: post #324
s_dev wrote: post #118

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I can't read this comments as anything other than virtue signalling. You can call Mark Shuttleworth an asshole and still use Ubuntu without being a hypocrite.

That’s interesting because as soon as I read the phrase ‘virtue signaling’, I ignore the person who wrote it. It’s deeply rude because you’re implying that I have no virtue. You don’t know me and so that’s intellectually dishonest.

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Re: Canonical’s recruitment process is long and complex

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Post by lannisterstark »

hluska wrote: post #448
iraqmtpizza wrote: post #433

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This is precisely how bullies act. It’s anti intellectual, disrespectful and flat out cancerous. This culture where people can be as rude as they want, make demands and then flippantly say shit like ‘whoa. triggered’ is a complete disgrace. Either please develop something interesting. Whether it’s a personality, ideas or expertise doesn’t matter. Just please cut out the bullying shit and become interesting. This is g…

Not OP but...Remember earlier in another comment thread where you said "It’s deeply rude because you’re implying that I have no virtue"

Judging by how defensive you're getting even at slightest criticism, and keep putting words in other people's mouths, ...well, But it's ok. Maybe you're just having a bad day.

>become interesting

Follow your own advice, maybe go for a walk, touch grass. Take an anger management class or some such. It'd help :)

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Post by gomizari »

Arrath wrote: post #362
christophilus wrote: post #350

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Yeah. I thought the story would end with the HR person saying, “Oh. Turns out Bob died. I guess you’re hired. Have Bob’s office.”

That or the HR person sits the interviewee down and wanders off assuming the desk owner will come back soon with a fresh cuppa. Cut to some time later, the interviewee's skeleton is sitting there still waiting. Maybe I've read too much Douglas Adams.

HRtiko

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Post by 59nadir »

OkayPhysicist wrote: post #211
realusername wrote: post #199

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Having done a lot of interviews for my company, I also agree. If your whole process takes more than 3 weeks, you are losing people to competitors. Candidates aren't going to wait 3 months and delaying all the other offers they are receiving, that's not going to work unless you are working in a FAANG maybe and the prestige of your company can make this work.

My current job was less than a week between my application and signing the final offer. Day 1: I send in an application. Day 2: My future manager writes back "Hey, do you have any work examples in obscure language I used for 10 minutes in my EE classes ?". I respond "No, nobody has work examples in obscure language ." Later that day, same manager emails me again, asking the same question, in slightly different words.…

What is the obscure language?

Re: Canonical’s recruitment process is long and complex

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Post by yard2010 »

ghaff wrote: post #254
yard2010 wrote: post #222

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In my last job search I had like 1 case like this out of 30-40. Might be my numbers though

Is that a normal number of leads to have in play? I certainly spewed my fair share of resumes into the void out of school but I haven't done that since.

I don't think so because most of these leads came from frontend recruiters that could have made a lot of money landing me a job, and as a result most of them were great opportunities for the recruiters, not so great for me and the potential future employer.

Don't get discouraged. Work on a personal project if you want, so you have something to show. In my experience it's only hard to land the first job. Once you do, it becomes easier. Don't read other people's experiences and think something is wrong. Good luck <3

Re: Canonical’s recruitment process is long and complex

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Post by fineIllregister »

Timon3 wrote: post #444
fineIllregister wrote: post #443

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VPOTUS assuming the presidency absolutely is a new administration. Hard to see how anyone could claim otherwise. Consider Andrew Johnson, who wasn't even the same party as Lincoln. He was impeached by Republicans and in his run for presidency got his votes mostly from Southern whites. He pardoned basically all confederates. The murder of Lincoln definitely was a violent transfer of power from an abolitionist to a Sou…

> VPOTUS assuming the presidency absolutely is a new administration. Hard to see how anyone could claim otherwise. I am not claiming otherwise. I'm saying: it doesn't matter if the last president dies. > Consider Andrew Johnson, who wasn't even the same party as Lincoln. He was impeached by Republicans and in his run for presidency got his votes mostly from Southern whites. He pardoned basically all confederates. The…

> What violence occurred during the transition of power? Who tried to stop the political processes?

There wasn't supposed to be a transition of power. A violent initiation to the transfer of power when transfer of power was not supposed to occur is a non-peaceful transfer of power.

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