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Fedora Asahi Remix first impressions

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Re: Fedora Asahi Remix first impressions

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What's the status of sleep mode/battery life/trackpad feel on Asahi at this point? Last time I tried it those were the biggest blockers.

You can find all that information here: https://github.com/AsahiLinux/docs/wiki/Feature-Support I will say the the battery life on my Mac Studio sucks - as soon as I unplug it from power, it turns off.

Does the Mac Studio have an internal battery?

Re: Fedora Asahi Remix first impressions

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It is technically possible to remove macOS after installing Fedora Asahi Remix, leaving Linux as the sole OS, but this is not recommended to ensure that you can always update the firmware and recover the system. To install Fedora Asahi Remix, however, you must have macOS to run the installer script and prepare the system for use. So, the best solution is to shrink macOS to the minimum possible size during installatio…

Thanks. How does Apple bootstrap the system in the first place when inserting a blank SSD? Or perhaps you bought a replacement part? I don't see how that could be done if it is true—that the system is bricked/unrecoverable if the macos partition is lost. Surely it can boot from USB or something? Perhaps not, this wiki page linked above implies the iboot can't handle usb or external storage: https://github.com/AsahiLi…

Read further down. DFU prevents bricking.

Re: Fedora Asahi Remix first impressions

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post #23

I have never used Fedora, I use Arch on my desktop and really enjoyed it on my macbook. It's kind of sad the Arch developers didn't want to put more effort into supporting alarm. If Arch is totally dropped by Asahi team it's unlikely I'll continue using linux on my macbook at all. I just have better things to do than manage multiple distros.

Shouldn’t this distro require little management?

AFAIK, the main Arch Linux project isn't very interested in supporting the ARM architecture at all. This decision probably has more to do with that than anything else.

Re: Fedora Asahi Remix first impressions

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post #31

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You can find all that information here: https://github.com/AsahiLinux/docs/wiki/Feature-Support I will say the the battery life on my Mac Studio sucks - as soon as I unplug it from power, it turns off.

Does the Mac Studio have an internal battery?

To quote Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 3, Line 87: “No.”

Re: Fedora Asahi Remix first impressions

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I have never used Fedora, I use Arch on my desktop and really enjoyed it on my macbook. It's kind of sad the Arch developers didn't want to put more effort into supporting alarm. If Arch is totally dropped by Asahi team it's unlikely I'll continue using linux on my macbook at all. I just have better things to do than manage multiple distros.

Having used Arch heavily in the past, “better things to do” is heavily at odds with “using arch”

Doesn't match my experience at all. I love that packages are always up to date. Also, in my experience, having a rolling release cycle leads to significantly fewer issues than having to upgrade everything at once. Using Arch has been a net time saver for me compared to something like Ubuntu where I've wasted a lot of time fighting package upgrade issues and trying to get newer package versions than the distro provides.

Re: Fedora Asahi Remix first impressions

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post #35

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Having used Arch heavily in the past, “better things to do” is heavily at odds with “using arch”

Doesn't match my experience at all. I love that packages are always up to date. Also, in my experience, having a rolling release cycle leads to significantly fewer issues than having to upgrade everything at once. Using Arch has been a net time saver for me compared to something like Ubuntu where I've wasted a lot of time fighting package upgrade issues and trying to get newer package versions than the distro provide…

In my limited experience, how Arch works out depends on how you're using Linux. If it's your daily driver and you stay on top of updates it's probably going to be fine, but on the other hand if it's a secondary OS on a multiboot system or a VM or something that only gets updated occasionally, chances of things breaking are much higher and something like Fedora might make more sense.

Re: Fedora Asahi Remix first impressions

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post #12

Would Asahi linux on an apple laptop be the best Linux laptop experience these days for someone who prioritizes fanlessness? It seems the other ARM option is the ThinkPad X13s, which presumably has lower performance. Anyone have experience running linux on these machines and can compare the experience and hardware compatibility?

I think so, X13s can become extremely hot and are slower. Only things still lacking for single machine use is speakers, microphone and webcam: https://github.com/AsahiLinux/docs/wiki/Feature-Support

Also the ability to connect to external displays is missing - which is a pretty big one.

Re: Fedora Asahi Remix first impressions

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Thanks. How does Apple bootstrap the system in the first place when inserting a blank SSD? Or perhaps you bought a replacement part? I don't see how that could be done if it is true—that the system is bricked/unrecoverable if the macos partition is lost. Surely it can boot from USB or something? Perhaps not, this wiki page linked above implies the iboot can't handle usb or external storage: https://github.com/AsahiLi…

Read further down. DFU prevents bricking.

Yes, just got to that part, thanks.

Investigating DFU, apparently it needs a second laptop to bootstrap it, like a mobile device. I don't like the idea, but it won't happen often, hmm.

Re: Fedora Asahi Remix first impressions

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Exactly. And users help them by testing and submitting bug reports, posting on forums/lists, etc. So my question stands, why help IBM at all in any way when you know what that is feeding into?

From TFA "But the main reason is that there have been many issues surrounding the maintenance of ARM packages for Arch Linux, and that the Fedora team is both capable and willing to provide provide the support needed to provide a truly polished Linux experience on modern Macs (the main goal of the Asahi Linux project). By moving to Fedora, the Asahi team can focus on reverse engineering Apple hardware while the Fedor…

I'd rather help Debian and not see my work help IBM sell RHEL based on Fedora in the future.

Re: Fedora Asahi Remix first impressions

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post #21

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From TFA "But the main reason is that there have been many issues surrounding the maintenance of ARM packages for Arch Linux, and that the Fedora team is both capable and willing to provide provide the support needed to provide a truly polished Linux experience on modern Macs (the main goal of the Asahi Linux project). By moving to Fedora, the Asahi team can focus on reverse engineering Apple hardware while the Fedor…

I'd rather help Debian and not see my work help IBM sell RHEL based on Fedora in the future.

Do you help Debian then?
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