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Re: Fedora Asahi Remix first impressions

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Post by jasoneckert » Sat, Aug 12, 2023, 6:15 PM UTC

andrewmutz wrote: post #7

Would Asahi linux on an apple laptop be the best Linux laptop experience these days for someone who prioritizes fanlessness? It seems the other ARM option is the ThinkPad X13s, which presumably has lower performance. Anyone have experience running linux on these machines and can compare the experience and hardware compatibility?

I believe so, but I would stick to the M1 models currently as they have a larger set of supported features complete at this time: https://github.com/AsahiLinux/docs/wiki/Feature-Support

Re: Fedora Asahi Remix first impressions

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Post by hbbio » Sat, Aug 12, 2023, 6:18 PM UTC

andrewmutz wrote: post #7

Would Asahi linux on an apple laptop be the best Linux laptop experience these days for someone who prioritizes fanlessness? It seems the other ARM option is the ThinkPad X13s, which presumably has lower performance. Anyone have experience running linux on these machines and can compare the experience and hardware compatibility?

I think so, X13s can become extremely hot and are slower.

Only things still lacking for single machine use is speakers, microphone and webcam: https://github.com/AsahiLinux/docs/wiki/Feature-Support

Re: Fedora Asahi Remix first impressions

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Post by jasoneckert » Sat, Aug 12, 2023, 6:19 PM UTC

rs_rs_rs_rs_rs wrote: post #3

>my peripheral devices work I would live a little more detail on this.

I use a Lenovo TrackPoint II Bluetooth keyboard and Logitech MX Master 3 Bluetooth mouse, as well as a massive Bose sound system.

Re: Fedora Asahi Remix first impressions

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Post by jasoneckert » Sat, Aug 12, 2023, 6:20 PM UTC

pacifika wrote: post #9

rs_rs_rs_rs_rs wrote: post #3

>my peripheral devices work I would live a little more detail on this.

Also which year of Mac Studio are we talking about here.

The answer you seek is in the output of neofetch in the screenshot ;-)

Re: Fedora Asahi Remix first impressions

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Post by valianteffort » Sat, Aug 12, 2023, 6:20 PM UTC

I have never used Fedora, I use Arch on my desktop and really enjoyed it on my macbook. It's kind of sad the Arch developers didn't want to put more effort into supporting alarm.

If Arch is totally dropped by Asahi team it's unlikely I'll continue using linux on my macbook at all. I just have better things to do than manage multiple distros.

Re: Fedora Asahi Remix first impressions

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Post by extr » Sat, Aug 12, 2023, 6:22 PM UTC

What's the status of sleep mode/battery life/trackpad feel on Asahi at this point? Last time I tried it those were the biggest blockers.

Re: Fedora Asahi Remix first impressions

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Post by jasoneckert » Sat, Aug 12, 2023, 6:25 PM UTC

mixmastamyk wrote: post #2

Nice post. Wondering if/when dependence on macOS will be eliminated? I don’t mind a small recovery partition on disk for… what, firmware updates? But otherwise would prefer macOS get completely out of the way. Is that a thing that is possible, or will we always be reliant on an “activated” macOS?

It is technically possible to remove macOS after installing Fedora Asahi Remix, leaving Linux as the sole OS, but this is not recommended to ensure that you can always update the firmware and recover the system.

To install Fedora Asahi Remix, however, you must have macOS to run the installer script and prepare the system for use.

So, the best solution is to shrink macOS to the minimum possible size during installation and use the remaining space for Fedora Asahi Remix should you wish to forget about macOS altogether.

Re: Fedora Asahi Remix first impressions

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Post by throwawaykk4 » Sat, Aug 12, 2023, 6:26 PM UTC

RealStickman_ wrote: post #8

throwawaykk4 wrote: post #5

Why help Red Hat at all when they are becoming more like IBM each day?

Fedora contributors are the ones maintaining the packages and they might have more work now if something breaks on the M1. This only "helps" Red Hat in that they can get more testing on ARM.

Exactly. And users help them by testing and submitting bug reports, posting on forums/lists, etc. So my question stands, why help IBM at all in any way when you know what that is feeding into?

Re: Fedora Asahi Remix first impressions

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Post by jasoneckert » Sat, Aug 12, 2023, 6:28 PM UTC

extr wrote: post #16

What's the status of sleep mode/battery life/trackpad feel on Asahi at this point? Last time I tried it those were the biggest blockers.

You can find all that information here: https://github.com/AsahiLinux/docs/wiki/Feature-Support

I will say the the battery life on my Mac Studio sucks - as soon as I unplug it from power, it turns off.

Re: Fedora Asahi Remix first impressions

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Post by jasoneckert » Sat, Aug 12, 2023, 6:33 PM UTC

throwawaykk4 wrote: post #5

Why help Red Hat at all when they are becoming more like IBM each day?

Because I'm evil ( •̀ᴗ•́ )و

Just kidding - I understand the recent hate directed at Red Hat and IBM, but there are always two sides to every story: https://www.lpi.org/blog/2023/07/30/ibm-red-hat-and-free-sof...

Fedora is an excellent distribution, my second favourite F-word, and a sage choice for providing a polished long-term experience on Apple Silicon.