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Jobs and Gates banned their kids from iPads and other devices they created

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Re: Jobs and Gates banned their kids from iPads and other devices they created

#41
Banned their kids from iPads ... but probably had an entire 24/7 staff on hand to look after/feed/entertain/keep-quiet their kids for them. This removes probably 90% of the time people give their kids the iPad (the "I just need 15 mins" thing).

Re: Jobs and Gates banned their kids from iPads and other devices they created

#42

The part I struggle with is, how do I let my kids program and be creative on the computer without being online when daddy can’t program without an internet connection? How will they develop “street smarts” about being on social media without a social media account? How do I let them have the same positive experiences I had playing games without having the deeply negative ones too (I lost that breastplate that took we…

Becoming "street smart" in no way out weights the risks of becoming it. I see it as a cope rationalization. Like, roaming around Chicago as a 15yo. What do you learn the hard way that a 25yo does not understand by default.

I don't know, but I roamed around Chicago as a 15 year old in the early 1990s. What was I supposed to have learned?

Re: Jobs and Gates banned their kids from iPads and other devices they created

#43
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

not practical

How do you think developers built programs pre google/stack-overflow? i.e. early to late 90's.

A shelf or two full of books and magazines and generally much more slowly.

Re: Jobs and Gates banned their kids from iPads and other devices they created

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post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

not practical

How do you think developers built programs pre google/stack-overflow? i.e. early to late 90's.

Exactly, when my car doesn't work I just ride one of my horses /s

Re: Jobs and Gates banned their kids from iPads and other devices they created

#46

I started working on social media in 2006. I did it for a big name for most of the 2010s. It can be a good thing, it’s easier to make it a good thing. It’s expensive as hell to make a screen more destructive than narcotics, you need PhDs and server farms and shit for that. The problem is that software companies aren’t “allowed to mature”. Sometimes you tap out the market, you aren’t doing 20% next year without pushin…

How could we remove the temptation to squeeze every last dollar from a company, even if it crushes society in the process? What if the market leader in an industry was taxed such that there was no incentive to make more money than the 2nd or 3rd place company in the market? This would encourage competition, and also remove many of the perverse incentives when a single company is dominant.

I have another idea.

What if we could hold the board and the CEO personally liable with prison time for crimes by all the agents, contractors, employees, and so on of a company (with exception when they explicitly went against company policy to commit said crimes)? You'd think that was already the law but given that the Wells Fargo CEO avoided any prison time when management misused blacklist on employees who didn't meet their illegal quota, I am not holding my breath.

Re: Jobs and Gates banned their kids from iPads and other devices they created

#47
I have a niece and nephew ~10yo that whenever I see them are just staring at their devices. I don't want that happening to my 1yo son, I don't want him to miss out on normal life stuff either. When do and how do people normally introduce devices to their kids? So far we haven't shown him any technology, other than seeing himself on the screen when we take a selfie.

Re: Jobs and Gates banned their kids from iPads and other devices they created

#49
post #30

> Gates and his then-wife Melinda took a decisive step by limiting screen time to 45 minutes for games, with an additional hour allowed on weekends. This was in addition to the time required for homework. Bit of a misleading title. Not really banned, limited use, which should the case with consumption of any of these technologies anyways.

I’d also argue the implication of the title is also misleading.

“Look Gates and Jobs ban their kids from what they made!”

Yeah and if someone brews beer but doesn’t let their kids drink it, I guess that also makes them a hypocrite?

Re: Jobs and Gates banned their kids from iPads and other devices they created

#50

IMHO, the key thing that we need to do is to teach our kids how to create "things" instead of just "consuming". This is important no matter which era you are in, but the average 15th century kid didn't have that many stuffs laying around for him to just consume. This problem is suddenly in our face now and we are scrambling around to try and keep our children away from the cacophony of information, but the better thi…

It's the Internet's big class distinction: the "creators" (0.1% with decent audience, 1% with any audience, 10% commenters) and pure lurkers/consumers (the rest).
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