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Record labels hit Internet Archive with new copyright lawsuit

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Re: Record labels hit Internet Archive with new copyright lawsuit

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internet archive should move their server/business to china or russia so these greedy companies more hard to touch them

Would they allow permanently archiving content which is censored by their own regimes?

Their own governments.

Re: Record labels hit Internet Archive with new copyright lawsuit

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>In my case I don’t care If you did, you could DMCA claim it. They'd still archive the stuff, but it wouldn't be publicly available until whenever it'd fall into the public domain. That part of the system seems to work fairly well, except the century it would take for it to fall into public domain.

You probably don't even need to make a DMCA claim. Probably just ask them to take it down. That's pretty much how the IA has operated in general. Mostly just act as if most people don't care (which they don't) and, for most other cases, take any requested actions because it's easier for both sides than a lawsuit.

The important part of the DMCA claim is that you state under threat of perjury that you either own the copyright or are a representative of whomever owns the copyright. That's why they'd probably want a DMCA claim or some other verification you owned the copyright on what you want taken down.

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Copyright should be life of the authors full stop. My dad dug ditches for half his life but I don’t get checks in the mail every time water flows through them.

I think the publish date plus 20 years not to exceed the life of the author is plenty.

Would you like this for all assets, basically banning inheritance. Govt will seize all property, savings, stocks etc on a person's death.

Re: Record labels hit Internet Archive with new copyright lawsuit

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Copyright should be life of the authors full stop. My dad dug ditches for half his life but I don’t get checks in the mail every time water flows through them.

What about software? I was thinking about this last night. Should I use a license agreement that gives my proprietary software to the public domain when I die? What about my open source software that I can no longer maintain? In my case, the software is probably not popular enough to continue without me. Should it keep a GPL license or be converted to MIT or to public domain? What if I do have a hit someday and it pr…

I have an unwritten dying wish to grant all my writing to the public domain when I pass away, but still need to figure out where to cram that in the will and need to set it up with someone to update the licenses and copyright notices for me.

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> The movie and music business sure spends a lot of money fighting piracy. If they spent it on providing a no-bullshit, reasonably priced platform that provides access to their whole catalog, then they would be making a lot more money than they would from lawsuits, and piracy would be virtually non-existent.

Most people pirate to get stuff for free. If everything was cheaply, easily available, piracy would exist at similar numbers. Now, I do agree that “one pirate number doesn’t necessarily equate to one lost sale”. But that’s not what you’re arguing. Pirates have been saying this for decades, and yet despite content being easier than ever, with pricing falling faster than ever (non-streaming services), piracy is as heal…

> If everything was cheaply, easily available, piracy would exist at similar numbers.

This contradicts all the research that shows that piracy went down when cheap, easy and reliable music services were available that let you access content how you want, eg. time shifted, different devices, not region restricted, etc. And piracy went up when they tried to lock that stuff down again.

Piracy will never fall to zero, but it's not worth fighting below a certain point.

Re: Record labels hit Internet Archive with new copyright lawsuit

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> The movie and music business sure spends a lot of money fighting piracy. If they spent it on providing a no-bullshit, reasonably priced platform that provides access to their whole catalog, then they would be making a lot more money than they would from lawsuits, and piracy would be virtually non-existent.

Yes and no. Making music ubiquitous has been great for stomping out piracy but terrible for revenues. This isn't just a problem of underpricing. In the movies and TV space, all the studios found out that exclusive licensing makes more money because you can drag viewers from one subscription service to another. At the most extreme you have shit like the Disney Vault, which works because some creative work is worth mor…

> In the movies and TV space, all the studios found out that exclusive licensing makes more money because you can drag viewers from one subscription service to another.

That's exactly the kind of shit that drives people to piracy. Then they try to recoup their falling revenue with litigation. It's stupid.

I also don't believe streaming has been that bad for revenue. The financial shenanigans they go through to avoid paying artists, writers and more are insane. It's part of the whole impetus behind the current strikes.

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Start on this path guaranteed to achieve the desired results in X years, especially when Australia is not a big player on the global scene.

Australia has ranked choice voting and it has not resulted in Australia making better decisions. I'd argue that in muddling the level of preference between options by overquantizing things, it biases elections towards the status quo and a complete lack of change, and motivates the two main parties to minimize (or eliminate) their differences. It can be better to pick the one you like most rather than to sort a bunch…

Thanks for the interesting context. I will have to read further on mandatory voting or mandatory ranking of all candidates, but as it is, first past the post in the USA always leads to voting for the lesser evil.

I never get to vote for the person representing the policies I want, but rather voting against the handful of policies I do not want.

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Yes it should. Property is property. It is insane that some property somehow becomes unownable after an arbitrary length of time. If I own land, that land will go to my heirs or, if none exist, on auction. Then someone else will own it. It won't become permanently public and non-property. Intellectual property ought to work the same way. The great part is that we can create an infinite amount of intellectual property…

I see no reason why the laws around IP need to be the same as the laws for real estate.

Re: Record labels hit Internet Archive with new copyright lawsuit

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I think the publish date plus 20 years not to exceed the life of the author is plenty.

Would you like this for all assets, basically banning inheritance. Govt will seize all property, savings, stocks etc on a person's death.

No.

Re: Record labels hit Internet Archive with new copyright lawsuit

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> An analyst I know once argued pretty strongly that Napster became popular not because it was free but because it was more convenient than going to the record store and buying a CD. Some context for the younger HN audience: a CD used to cost $15-20 new and almost no artist in the US sold singles. If you wanted a song you heard on the radio you needed to go to one or more record stores to find the CD and pay your $15…

>Music streaming is just the latest convenience since everyone has an Internet connected device in their pocket and their "library" is just every song in the service's catalog. Yeah, mobile probably played a role as well. Even if you have a few TB of music reasonably cataloged on a USB drive at home, that doesn't do you a huge amount of good when you're somewhere where you only have access to your phone or want to ha…

> Even if you have a few TB of music reasonably cataloged on a USB drive at home

I have been pirating artists’ entire discographies across multiple genres, 200 CD box sets, etc. for 20 years now, but I still have barely scratched 1TB -- and that’s even with my collection consisting entirely of FLACs, some of which are large 96/24 files or 5.1 surround-sound files. Audio alone just doesn’t take up much space. I don’t think obsessive fans are going to get into a “few TB” unless they are collecting for the sake of collecting, not just building their own personal collection to listen to. And a 1TB collection actually does fit now on your phone thanks to Sandisk offering a 1TB SD card.

For films, sure, one is definitely looking at more than “a few TB”. I have a collection of about 600 films, all of which are DVD images or Blu-ray remuxes, and that already amounts to 6TB. With the availability of 4K remuxes that can be up to 100GB each, demands on storage will only grow.

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