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Artificial General Intelligence – A gentle introduction

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Re: Artificial General Intelligence – A gentle introduction

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You need theory before you get implementation.

Most of the history of technological development is the other way around. Theory-driven novel engineering is actually quite rare.

Quantum mechanics was quite handy to develop electronics.

Re: Artificial General Intelligence – A gentle introduction

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post #4

How is it possible to make an introduction to something that doesn't exist?

Concepts that can exist but not yet for some reason surely can have a link to our reality. That link is the introduction. Think of asteroid mining. Nothing forbids that it can be done, but it's not practical yet to exist, but you can write a book on it regardless.

Re: Artificial General Intelligence – A gentle introduction

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> It's not a concern for any current living generations How much would you be willing to bet? I understand the skepticism, but to assign 0% probability to it happening in our lifetimes seems excessively low.

Betting against business as normal is a lose-lose scenario. AGI never exceeds humans: You lose the bet. AGI exceeds humans, but recursive self-improvement is impossible: Authoritarian dystopia. Your winnings belong to whoever controls the AGI. AGI exceeds humans, and recursive self-improvement is possible: Extinction of all biological life. There are no winnings.

AGI slightly exceeds humans, but they are actually kind of shitty in all sorts of annoying and hard to predict ways. They turn out to be fantastic slackers and liars. Your voters, to put it mildly, don't like them. It's hard to monetize them and we all agree we should focus our efforts on something else.

Re: Artificial General Intelligence – A gentle introduction

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post #23

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The real danger in the next few years will be the extreme operating speed of the types of fairly general purpose AIs that we already have such as GPT. This will increase to be dozens of times faster than what humans are capable of. That creates a very strong type of leverage for operators and an incentive to remove slow humans from the loop. Overall transfer of control to these types of systems may lead to a precario…

I don't want be too human-centric, but to be completely honest we haven't seen the slightest proof that human intelligence is not something special. I know lots of animals are pretty clever, none approach us in any practical sense. While it looks like an evolutionairy fluke that can be approached or even exceeded by other species - either on this or another planet - in the blink of an eye, I think that's actually mor…

> we haven't seen the slightest proof that human intelligence is not something special.

Have we seen the slightest proof of opposite?

> I know lots of animals are pretty clever, none approach us in any practical sense.

What senses might you consider as enough practical? Have you heard about Koko? What do you think about corvidae?

Re: Artificial General Intelligence – A gentle introduction

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The real danger in the next few years will be the extreme operating speed of the types of fairly general purpose AIs that we already have such as GPT. This will increase to be dozens of times faster than what humans are capable of. That creates a very strong type of leverage for operators and an incentive to remove slow humans from the loop. Overall transfer of control to these types of systems may lead to a precario…

I don't want be too human-centric, but to be completely honest we haven't seen the slightest proof that human intelligence is not something special. I know lots of animals are pretty clever, none approach us in any practical sense. While it looks like an evolutionairy fluke that can be approached or even exceeded by other species - either on this or another planet - in the blink of an eye, I think that's actually mor…

There is a limit to compression of human-relevant information which is largely what intelligence is.

The main thing I am talking about is speed of output. You can already see huge increases in say old GPT-3.5 versus GPT-3.5-turbo or old GPT-4 to new.

We know for a fact that the hardware inference speed can be increased by using faster (currently prohibitively expensive) memory or by packing more onto a chip. There are design for new memory-based computing paradigms.

It's already clear that AI is superintelligent in certain domains or aspects. Such as the ability to exchange information with other agents.

Computer hardware efficiency has relentlessly increased. It would be a total break with history if it suddenly stopped.

Re: Artificial General Intelligence – A gentle introduction

#39
post #4

How is it possible to make an introduction to something that doesn't exist?

"1945: Arthur C. Clarke begins privately circulating copies of a paper that proposes using space satellites for global communications." [0]

"The best way to predict the future is to invent it." - Alan Kay

[0] https://www.wired.com/2011/05/0525arthur-c-clarke-proposes-g...

Re: Artificial General Intelligence – A gentle introduction

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post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't want be too human-centric, but to be completely honest we haven't seen the slightest proof that human intelligence is not something special. I know lots of animals are pretty clever, none approach us in any practical sense. While it looks like an evolutionairy fluke that can be approached or even exceeded by other species - either on this or another planet - in the blink of an eye, I think that's actually mor…

> we haven't seen the slightest proof that human intelligence is not something special. Have we seen the slightest proof of opposite? > I know lots of animals are pretty clever, none approach us in any practical sense. What senses might you consider as enough practical? Have you heard about Koko? What do you think about corvidae?

I’m not weighing in on the debate, but there does seem to be a great deal of doubt that Koko was using language in an intelligent way.
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