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Re: Speed Test

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Post by illiac786 »

ghshephard wrote: post #168
jedberg wrote: post #162

I think this is great service, and here is another one that Netflix provides: https://fast.com That one uses Netflix servers, so you get a valid test as long as your ISP isn't throttling Netflix. Of course they created it so that people would call their ISP and complain they aren't getting the speed they pay for, but it turns out it's a pretty good test most of the time. And most importantly, it isn't prioritized lik…

The prioritization is critical for speedtest.net - it's entire purpose is to provide an assessment of your PHY - not your Network, and certainly not your Internet speed. speedtest.net should tell you if the physical installation of your cable was done properly - nothing more.

Depends what data you are after: physical bandwidth or the real bandwidth you'll get on a non prioritised website? I for one am after the second one, as it's closer to real life scenarios.

Re: Speed Test

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Post by illiac786 »

tantalor wrote: post #93
IntelMiner wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who's it measuring against? An (internet) speed test by its nature requires some remote third-party, if you aren't just testing to your own server

In the case of tool built by Apple, running on Apple client hardware, against Apple remote server, that would be "1st party", not "3rd party".

Apple traffic is also heavily prioritised nowadays. They want to avoid huge updates having to be redownloaded I expect. Apple TV would be another reason.

Re: Speed Test

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Post by illiac786 »

bmo-at wrote: post #59

Is there a cli tool for this aswell or just the website? At home I have my server run a speedtest (ookla for now) running every 30 minutes because I do not trust my ISP to keep their end of the deal. I visualize the results with grafana and would love to change over to this. As haivri points out, this is a very detailed report! EDIT: Apparently there is a nodejs module available https://github.com/cloudflare/speedtes…

Do you know samknows? Does that for you.

Re: Speed Test

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Post by akino_germany »

nerdbert wrote: post #194
akino_germany wrote: post #133

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Your layout is broken in everything but Chrome.

Works for me in Firefox. Plugins maybe?

Yes, the add-on to disable Google Analytics https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gaoptout was the problem. Never had that break a web page before.

Re: Speed Test

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Post by Aachen »

nerdbert wrote: post #193
capableweb wrote: post #92

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> Here in Europe it's all equally fast Well, Europe has lots of different countries and I've definitely been in countries that are considered to be in Europe where it's not equally fast, and using a VPN can speed up a lot of things.

Obviously there are faster and slower broadband connections; by "equally fast" I assume GP meant that various services can be reached without ISP choking or throttling, thanks to EU-wide network neutrality rules.

That's what they must mean as well, because otherwise a VPN could never help

I would be curious about concrete examples in Europe, though

Re: Speed Test

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Post by tiagod »

akino_germany wrote: post #133
jgrahamc wrote: post #77

If you're interested in this then you might be interested in the global Internet quality data we are publishing: https://radar.cloudflare.com/quality and https://blog.cloudflare.com/introducing-radar-internet-quali...

Your layout is broken in everything but Chrome.

It should be working now. This was an interaction between React's streaming hydration errors (due to unexpected HTML injected by extensions) and one of the frontend dependencies.

Re: Speed Test

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Post by ghshephard »

illiac786 wrote: post #201
ghshephard wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The prioritization is critical for speedtest.net - it's entire purpose is to provide an assessment of your PHY - not your Network, and certainly not your Internet speed. speedtest.net should tell you if the physical installation of your cable was done properly - nothing more.

Depends what data you are after: physical bandwidth or the real bandwidth you'll get on a non prioritised website? I for one am after the second one, as it's closer to real life scenarios.

Right - for those you'll want fast.com, speed.cloudflare.com, fiber.google.com/speedtest/, etc... But at first you need to make sure that your fiber/co-ax/DSL was installed correctly - that's why all the cable testers I've watched use speedtest.net

Re: Speed Test

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Post by IntelMiner »

tantalor wrote: post #93
IntelMiner wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who's it measuring against? An (internet) speed test by its nature requires some remote third-party, if you aren't just testing to your own server

In the case of tool built by Apple, running on Apple client hardware, against Apple remote server, that would be "1st party", not "3rd party".

Apple is a 3rd party to yourself

Re: Speed Test

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Post by no_carrier »

Vicinity9635 wrote: post #165

Interesting. I get higher speeds on cloudflare in chrome. 603Mbps Cloudflare chrome vs. 600 Mbps Cloudflare firefox But on fast.com (netflix) it's the opposite: 440 Mbps fast.com Chrome vs. 590 Mbps fast.com firefox.

Late reply, but this could be due to your browsers handling DNS differently. Both are capable of using DoH (DNS over HTTPS) and using DNS settings independent of the rest of your PC.

Re: Speed Test

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Post by xp84 »

albert_e wrote: post #197
xp84 wrote: post #185

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What's the motivation to rent an ISP router? That's a lot more control than many people would prefer to give to an entity that is likely anywhere from "greedy and dumb," to greedy and outright hostile. Having DOCSIS, I buy a modem, and own my router. I am aware that for more exotic technologies like fiber, a rented/ISP-owned 'modem' or network terminal of some sort may be compulsory, but a router is a bridge too far…

(Not in the US.) Well, here the major ISPs are bundling the FTTH Fibre modem and th WiFi router into a single device. I wanted to experiment with Mesh router for better wifi coverage but the prices of mesh routers here are high, brands unproven, and returns policy iffy. So I went with the mesh router option offered by ISP for ~1 USD a month. (I do have a spare wifi router to add if I really feel like. Our location ha…

Oof. With the power especially, I can see why you would make that call.

On the positive side, they're ripping you off much less than our ISPs do in the States. They usually charge $10-20 a month here for some device which is usually using technology from about 5 years ago (when it's first installed, that is - they don't swap you a new one when technology improves of course, unless you raise a fuss AND they've actually adopted a new model).

I will admit, sometimes it's tempting because you could in theory expect them to support their company-owned hardware. But in practice for us that just means we can complain at some minimum wage call center "tech support" about how the device stops working until rebooted X times a week, and they will offer the choice to reboot it again or to make an all-day appointment for some installer to show up with another identical refurbished modem/router/AP that will have the exact same buggy software.

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