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Re: My Overkill Home Network

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Post by hqsolomo »

dheera wrote: post #188
hqsolomo wrote: post #100

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Amen on that. The past few rigs I built for myself were all ITX machines. I went through and undervolted my CPU, RAM, and GPU. Once my current gaming rig dies I'm just going to stick with the consoles for gaming until they goes to shit as well. In an era of abundance we seem to be trying to use more power to support what we already do, rather than rethinking what we do to use less power. It's a shame!

Honestly I could I could easily solar power all of my compute needs (and probably a lot more) from my apartment's roof. But at last, I'm a renter and my property management isn't going to allow that. We're literally wasting clean energy because of a bunch of rich turds hogging real estate with shitty rules about what you can't do. When my property changed management the new management even banned EV charging on the p…

It jumbles my jimmies hearing about outright rejection of modern tech by industries that would best benefit from said tech.

I'd almost be willing to bet money that your landlord would charge a "renewable energy" fee even if they're just dumping power back to the grid for $$$ even if they had the panels

Re: My Overkill Home Network

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Post by fzeindl »

matthew-wegner wrote: post #121
bmitc wrote: post #58

Is there a post that covers the "why?" of all this? As someone researching maybe running some Ethernet for more stable WiFi and faster Internet access for general stuff, maybe some fiber for infotainment other purposes since it can lengthen various cables, and hooking up some security and nature cameras, I can't fathom why all of this is needed outside of it just being a hobby or running some sort of business (tradin…

I built a pretty serious "homelab" over a few years, in the sense of building out 24/7 services as robustly as possible. There is an element of practicality for very long-term maintenance if you run i.e. VMs off a different storage layer. But mostly? It felt exactly like exploring computers in my childhood for the first time (I'm 43 now). I was bumping into things I had never bumped into it before, and it was really…

> There is an element of practicality for very long-term maintenance if you run i.e. VMs off a different storage layer.

That is very good advice. I know about a datacenter outage/degradation in a very large company, which all of you know.

A couple of network switches got overloaded. The switches connected the SAN to the VMs, so it caused all kinds of weird problems in different applications.

Re: My Overkill Home Network

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Post by Brajeshwar »

LeafItAlone wrote: post #199
Brajeshwar wrote: post #170

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I have been working remotely since about 2005-2006. I have always love a good Internet connection with backups (wherever possible). I remember befriending the local cable guy so I can get 1Mbps in 2000. Now, I have three Internet connections bonded and balanced. It is not about the minutes of disconnection but more about the disconnection when I needed it most. I have ample non-internet time and personal/family downt…

Sounds pretty neat! Just wondering: 1. How often do you actually need the third? As in, both primary and secondary are down. 2. Is it that important that you always have an internet connection?

After the 2nd, it was more of a fun and why-not! It is cheap, and comes built-in with a free Netflix subscription and quite a few others. I think it even has an unlimited voice call if I want to plug in a phone and use it.

Re: My Overkill Home Network

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Post by CTDOCodebases »

hqsolomo wrote: post #43
dheera wrote: post #35

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Having a rack alone doesn't consume anything, it's what you put on the rack. I have a rack setup and most of the time it consumes around 200 watts during the daytime and 100 watts at night, but can spike upto 600 watts if I put a heavy CPU+GPU load on it. I also put my desktop into suspend at night, something which I think a lot more people with desktops could do. Don't run 24/7 services (e.g. Home Assistant) on your…

I get that but the blog discussed a pretty beefy setup. My whole rack still used less power than my gaming PC at load but after doing the math I ultimately saved more money by going serverless for my apps and dumping (non-critical) data into a B2 bucket on paper. In reality I just started shutting things off and only turn them on when I need them. I'm curious as to what others are doing to save costs if anything. I l…

If you don’t require ECC RAM a common setup these days is a Proxmox cluster set up on refurbished USFF PCs like the Lenovo m720. They sip power at idle.

My personal approach is separate archived storage from working storage and keep archive storage offline until I need it. Keeping hard drives spinning is costly.

Re: My Overkill Home Network

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Post by selectodude »

iAm25626 wrote: post #195

what no 100g or IB? Those price point have come to a point where for home lab is bearable. Well we are talking about overkill. If one want to play around with network do it virtually is a much cheaper way to go: https://www.gns3.com/

I run GNS3 on a three node HA proxmox cluster :)

Re: My Overkill Home Network

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Post by Dah00n »

pottertheotter wrote: post #185
CuriousCosmic wrote: post #164

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Yeah this is why I like fiber optic cables. Lightning can't surge the modem if there's no electrical connection. And then standard power isolation and surge protection will handle all the power connections. I've yet to loose equipment to lightning from the power cables but I literally can't count the amount of equipment that has been killed by lightning striking a copper data line and then surging through my network.

All I can get is cable internet so this worries me. What’s the best way to implement power isolation and surge protection?

If you want to isolate the internet connection with fiber you can use an ethernet to fiber box.

Something as simple and cheap as this would do:

https://www.tp-link.com/us/business-networking/accessory/mc2...

Re: My Overkill Home Network

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Post by applied_heat »

monstermunch wrote: post #137
stn8188 wrote: post #5

Wow, and my wife says my network is complicated! :) In all seriousness, thanks for sharing, this is really incredible. I see a few similarities (fellow Harbor Freight shopper, ADS-B receiver)... but I took the mostly lazy way out and just use the TP Link Omada router, controller and access points. Works great for well over 50 wireless clients that we had at a recent BBQ. I particularly love your note about encrypted…

Thanks! I've been very interested in the new TP-Link stuff, they have really come a long way. I don't know if I've really ever heard of much wrong with the TP-Link stuff

I have the tp-link Omada APs with controller running in docker on synology nas and am happy with it

Re: My Overkill Home Network

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Post by cortesoft »

bmitc wrote: post #58

Is there a post that covers the "why?" of all this? As someone researching maybe running some Ethernet for more stable WiFi and faster Internet access for general stuff, maybe some fiber for infotainment other purposes since it can lengthen various cables, and hooking up some security and nature cameras, I can't fathom why all of this is needed outside of it just being a hobby or running some sort of business (tradin…

This is clearly the guys hobby. He does it for the act itself.

Re: My Overkill Home Network

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Post by kibibyte »

pottertheotter wrote: post #185
CuriousCosmic wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah this is why I like fiber optic cables. Lightning can't surge the modem if there's no electrical connection. And then standard power isolation and surge protection will handle all the power connections. I've yet to loose equipment to lightning from the power cables but I literally can't count the amount of equipment that has been killed by lightning striking a copper data line and then surging through my network.

All I can get is cable internet so this worries me. What’s the best way to implement power isolation and surge protection?

There are surge protectors that can protect the coax cables used for cable internet. Here's one that I use: https://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-Right-Angle-Protection-TLP....
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