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Re: My Overkill Home Network

#91

Post by bmitc »

hqsolomo wrote: post #67
bmitc wrote: post #58

Is there a post that covers the "why?" of all this? As someone researching maybe running some Ethernet for more stable WiFi and faster Internet access for general stuff, maybe some fiber for infotainment other purposes since it can lengthen various cables, and hooking up some security and nature cameras, I can't fathom why all of this is needed outside of it just being a hobby or running some sort of business (tradin…

Speaking personally, it's just another form of tinkering. Nobody HAS to do it, much like nobody has to buy and maintain their own computer, car, home, etc... We do it because we can and it makes us happy. Extra note- I would NEVER recommend a business use their home resources for work unless you know what you're doing (and why you're doing it). Even my homelab has vulnerabilities and I'm a security professional- more…

Gotcha. Thanks for the reply! To be clear, it wasn't a judgment but just a question to understand there weren't some unapparent reasons why. I think it makes total sense as a hobby and learning, but perhaps still overkill as the post title mentions. Haha.

Re: My Overkill Home Network

#92

Post by getwiththeprog »

hqsolomo wrote: post #43
dheera wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having a rack alone doesn't consume anything, it's what you put on the rack. I have a rack setup and most of the time it consumes around 200 watts during the daytime and 100 watts at night, but can spike upto 600 watts if I put a heavy CPU+GPU load on it. I also put my desktop into suspend at night, something which I think a lot more people with desktops could do. Don't run 24/7 services (e.g. Home Assistant) on your…

I get that but the blog discussed a pretty beefy setup. My whole rack still used less power than my gaming PC at load but after doing the math I ultimately saved more money by going serverless for my apps and dumping (non-critical) data into a B2 bucket on paper. In reality I just started shutting things off and only turn them on when I need them. I'm curious as to what others are doing to save costs if anything. I l…

MiniITX boards are low idle power, 17 watts for idle with a Ryzen 5600 compared to a full size boards 50 watts. I would no longer buy anything larger, even for a gaming machine.

Re: My Overkill Home Network

#93

Post by greggyb »

frankreyes wrote: post #74

I need a silent ECC server. Doesn't need to be super powerful but I'd rather have at most one fan. Any advice?

I'd start with something like this[0]. The only search term I used was "xeon-d". You can easily find other form factors and combinations. This line of CPUs is lower power (the linked one is rated at 45W), so should be trivially cool-able with a very quiet system. They support ECC RAM. You're likely to find mostly Mini-ITX and uATX boards, so they will fit in just about any case you want.

[0] https://www.ebay.com/itm/166190039675?epid=17034031881&hash=...

Re: My Overkill Home Network

#94

Post by mrpippy »

hqsolomo wrote: post #73
systems_glitch wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://tunnelbroker.net/ It's been around for a long time! If you do the IPv6 training certification, they do eventually send the t-shirt :P EDIT: They also provide free DNS for up to 50 domains at dns.he.net which is also worth looking at if you don't want to run your own for every little thing.

THANK YOU! This is perfect!

I haven’t used it in a few years, but one downside of an HE tunnel was that Netflix blocked traffic from it (since people were using it like a VPN to avoid geoblocks).

I had to run a DNS proxy to filter out AAAA records for any Netflix domains.

Re: My Overkill Home Network

#95

Post by hqsolomo »

bmitc wrote: post #91
hqsolomo wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Speaking personally, it's just another form of tinkering. Nobody HAS to do it, much like nobody has to buy and maintain their own computer, car, home, etc... We do it because we can and it makes us happy. Extra note- I would NEVER recommend a business use their home resources for work unless you know what you're doing (and why you're doing it). Even my homelab has vulnerabilities and I'm a security professional- more…

Gotcha. Thanks for the reply! To be clear, it wasn't a judgment but just a question to understand there weren't some unapparent reasons why. I think it makes total sense as a hobby and learning, but perhaps still overkill as the post title mentions. Haha.

I apologize if it seemed like I was irate- I'm not and your question is 100% the question we all ask ourselves before doing things like this (or for some of us, it's the first question on the wife acceptance factor audit). If anyone is running a data center in their home for a serious reason they either have small loads to justify the power consumption (rpi k8s cluster says hi), stacks to blow, regulatory pressure, or isn't factoring the costs in and is in for a rude awakening. I don't think (but also don't know) these labbers are the majority, and us homelabbers are already a rarity.

If it makes you feel better, megacorps are getting out of the "self-managed data center" industry and embracing the cloud, to exemplify your very point.

Re: My Overkill Home Network

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Post by pixl97 »

deepsun wrote: post #53

SpeedTest.net tests are useless, as ISPs give higher priority to traffic to known speed checkers. They can legally do that as we don't have Net Neutrality anymore.

Eh kinda... priority traffic shows the maximum potential speed of your link. The max speed of your link has nothing to do with the speed you'll get on any particular node on the internet. For example if the ISP has too little peering bandwidth to some other speed test.net host you will still be capped by that link.

These days I rarely need large bandwidth to any single host, but have a lot of bandwidth use between many hosts including streaming applications. Bufferbloat is far more apt to be problematic under this workload than ISP priority, unless there is a bandwidth shortage on the local links.

Re: My Overkill Home Network

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Post by smegger001 »

RajT88 wrote: post #88
cardsofinhuman wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this true? Do you have a link?

I used to work for a small ISP. The boss specifically wanted speed tests to be exempted from traffic shaping.

Not surprised. I have long noted that when my my browser is strugeling to load tabs all i have to do is try connecting to speedtest.net for all open tabs to suddenly load and i have decent speed for the next 15-30 minutes.

Re: My Overkill Home Network

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Post by nfriedly »

deepsun wrote: post #53

SpeedTest.net tests are useless, as ISPs give higher priority to traffic to known speed checkers. They can legally do that as we don't have Net Neutrality anymore.

That's the reason fast.com comes from the same servers as Netflix content - it's difficult to prioritize one without prioritizing the other.

Re: My Overkill Home Network

#99

Post by NoPicklez »

deepsun wrote: post #53

SpeedTest.net tests are useless, as ISPs give higher priority to traffic to known speed checkers. They can legally do that as we don't have Net Neutrality anymore.

I believe that's why Netflix introduced the fast.com speedtest, which runs through Netflix servers. Reducing the likelihood that the test gets shaped.

Re: My Overkill Home Network

#100

Post by hqsolomo »

getwiththeprog wrote: post #92
hqsolomo wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get that but the blog discussed a pretty beefy setup. My whole rack still used less power than my gaming PC at load but after doing the math I ultimately saved more money by going serverless for my apps and dumping (non-critical) data into a B2 bucket on paper. In reality I just started shutting things off and only turn them on when I need them. I'm curious as to what others are doing to save costs if anything. I l…

MiniITX boards are low idle power, 17 watts for idle with a Ryzen 5600 compared to a full size boards 50 watts. I would no longer buy anything larger, even for a gaming machine.

Amen on that. The past few rigs I built for myself were all ITX machines. I went through and undervolted my CPU, RAM, and GPU. Once my current gaming rig dies I'm just going to stick with the consoles for gaming until they goes to shit as well.

In an era of abundance we seem to be trying to use more power to support what we already do, rather than rethinking what we do to use less power. It's a shame!

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