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Launch HN: Refine (YC S23) – Open-source platform for enterprise web apps

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Re: Launch HN: Refine (YC S23) – Open-source platform for enterprise web apps

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Post by cpursley »

lovasoa wrote: post #38

There is a lot of activity in this space, and I think it's a good thing. Other very similar but less code-heavy solutions include appsmith, tooljet, or budibase. In the same spirit, but SQL-only instead of based on javascript, I am currently working on https://sql.ophir.dev . It also allows building entire data-centric applications and internal tools very quickly, but without having to think about things like "remix"…

I love this and already prefer the Hasura and Supabase based approaches where tryouts database/ data schema is your application - including business logic. Being able to scaffold an admin on top of that saves so much time.

Re: Launch HN: Refine (YC S23) – Open-source platform for enterprise web apps

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Post by wefarrell »

mirzap wrote: post #78
SmellTheGlove wrote: post #74

I’m not sure I agree that it’s open source and enterprise. Many of the enterprise features (eg SSO) don’t appear to be part of the open source version. That’s fine, you can and should monetize your work, but your enterprise and open source editions seem separate.

You get the code with the Enterprise version, so it is open source but under the Enterprise license. The community edition is open source under an MIT license. You need a license to get the Enterprise code. Many other software work this way. I'm curious about what their Enterprise license looks like and what you can and can not do with the code.

I'm guessing you have to pay for it and that you can't freely redistribute it, in which case it's not open source.

Re: Launch HN: Refine (YC S23) – Open-source platform for enterprise web apps

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Post by SmellTheGlove »

mirzap wrote: post #78
SmellTheGlove wrote: post #74

I’m not sure I agree that it’s open source and enterprise. Many of the enterprise features (eg SSO) don’t appear to be part of the open source version. That’s fine, you can and should monetize your work, but your enterprise and open source editions seem separate.

You get the code with the Enterprise version, so it is open source but under the Enterprise license. The community edition is open source under an MIT license. You need a license to get the Enterprise code. Many other software work this way. I'm curious about what their Enterprise license looks like and what you can and can not do with the code.

That’s not what open source means.

Re: Launch HN: Refine (YC S23) – Open-source platform for enterprise web apps

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Post by zoomzoom »

If you're building a Refine app and want to deploy it to AWS or GCP in your own account, I just posted a setup video of using Refine on Coherence (withcoherence.com): https://youtu.be/gFCXXU72Nec. We're happy to get you set up the same way if you get in touch (disclosure - I'm a cofounder).

Re: Launch HN: Refine (YC S23) – Open-source platform for enterprise web apps

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Post by selcuka »

replwoacause wrote: post #72
mukundesh wrote: post #71

Would like to recommend an open source Low Code framework https://frappeframework.com , significantly reduces the code to be written.

The main page says “Eliminate 97.42%* of your software development effort”… That’s a very specific percentage of effort to eliminate. How did you arrive at that figure?

73.6% of all statistics are made up.

Re: Launch HN: Refine (YC S23) – Open-source platform for enterprise web apps

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Post by pcthrowaway »

rubenfiszel wrote: post #42

I see windmill mentioned a few times (founder here). I think we are both anchoring our tools around "Retool for enterprise" because Retool is known and it give a quick overview of the domain we are in: Internal tools, but the audience and pain solved by refine and windmill are likely to be quite different. Windmill caters towards software engineers that want to write powerful backend logic in typescript/python/bash/g…

> I could see myself preferring refine for some use-cases

Nice to see you giving a positive testimonial to another company with some overlap, rather than tilting at windmills

Re: Launch HN: Refine (YC S23) – Open-source platform for enterprise web apps

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Post by fzaninotto »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #6
ayewo wrote: post #2

Congrats on the launch! How does your product compare to Retool and other products in the space including the OSS ones (Appsmith, Windmill, Tooljet etc)?

Will also throw in react-admin there. React-admin is not the same space per se (it's basically a react framework, not a low/no code tool), but if I built an internal admin app in react-admin, what would you say the pros/cons are to moving to Refine?

React-admin lead dev here.

Short story: Refine and react-admin were in the same low-code space (targeting developers) until today, but it seems they've pivoted to no-code (targeting non developers) as they go after ReTool.

Long story: https://marmelab.com/blog/2023/07/04/react-admin-vs-refine.h...

Re: Launch HN: Refine (YC S23) – Open-source platform for enterprise web apps

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Post by fzaninotto »

thatcherthorn wrote: post #83

There is a huge opportunity to integrate large language models w/ these types of platforms!

You're right, and it has already started. See for instance "Building AI-Augmented Apps With React-Admin" (https://marmelab.com/blog/2023/08/09/ai-augmented%20react-ap...)
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