Would like to recommend an open source Low Code framework https://frappeframework.com, significantly reduces the code to be written.
Launch HN: Refine (YC S23) – Open-source platform for enterprise web apps
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Re: Launch HN: Refine (YC S23) – Open-source platform for enterprise web apps
#72Would like to recommend an open source Low Code framework https://frappeframework.com , significantly reduces the code to be written.
The main page says “Eliminate 97.42%* of your software development effort”…
That’s a very specific percentage of effort to eliminate. How did you arrive at that figure?
Re: Launch HN: Refine (YC S23) – Open-source platform for enterprise web apps
#73Why do people keep comparing refine with nocode tools like windmill or tooljet? Refine just scaffolds your codebase, gives you a good start and has some really cool hooks for common operations like auth / data management / tables etc. I use it for my SaaS and it's great (though they never replied to any of the enquires i made for enterprise). Once you scaffold the project, then you're on your own.
> Why do people keep comparing refine with nocode tools like windmill or tooljet? Because they market it like that. Their tagline is "Open-source Retool for Enterprise", and retool is a nocode (or low-code) tool.
I’m really tired of all of these “low-code” tools for the enterprise.
Re: Launch HN: Refine (YC S23) – Open-source platform for enterprise web apps
#74I’m not sure I agree that it’s open source and enterprise. Many of the enterprise features (eg SSO) don’t appear to be part of the open source version. That’s fine, you can and should monetize your work, but your enterprise and open source editions seem separate.
Re: Launch HN: Refine (YC S23) – Open-source platform for enterprise web apps
#75I've used Retool and absolutely love it. It's a godsend for folks like me who want to create quick internal tools without delving into frontend frameworks and code. It's very drag-and-drop, intuitive, and easy to use. I describe it as MS Access on steroids. This thing looks nothing like Retool. As other people have mentioned here, Refine "just scaffolds your codebase, gives you a good start, and has some cool hooks".…
Please make your substantive points without impugning people's honesty. That's against the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. Your comment would be fine without that last paragraph.
Re: Launch HN: Refine (YC S23) – Open-source platform for enterprise web apps
#76"refine is a React-based fram"
closes tab
Re: Launch HN: Refine (YC S23) – Open-source platform for enterprise web apps
#77There is a lot of activity in this space, and I think it's a good thing. Other very similar but less code-heavy solutions include appsmith, tooljet, or budibase. In the same spirit, but SQL-only instead of based on javascript, I am currently working on https://sql.ophir.dev . It also allows building entire data-centric applications and internal tools very quickly, but without having to think about things like "remix"…
This does look handy for turning an SQL query into a table/cards on a webpage.
It basically seems to use SQL (instead of e.g. JSX) as the component configuring/templating language (in addition to querying). Which is a little odd, but does work for simple use cases like tables, cards, and grids.
I'll give it a try the next time I have to quickly present an SQL query as a non-customised report. Thanks!
Re: Launch HN: Refine (YC S23) – Open-source platform for enterprise web apps
#78I’m not sure I agree that it’s open source and enterprise. Many of the enterprise features (eg SSO) don’t appear to be part of the open source version. That’s fine, you can and should monetize your work, but your enterprise and open source editions seem separate.
You get the code with the Enterprise version, so it is open source but under the Enterprise license. The community edition is open source under an MIT license.
You need a license to get the Enterprise code. Many other software work this way.
I'm curious about what their Enterprise license looks like and what you can and can not do with the code.
Re: Launch HN: Refine (YC S23) – Open-source platform for enterprise web apps
#79"refine is a React-based fram" closes tab
if only more people had such sharp senses
Re: Launch HN: Refine (YC S23) – Open-source platform for enterprise web apps
#80I’m not sure I agree that it’s open source and enterprise. Many of the enterprise features (eg SSO) don’t appear to be part of the open source version. That’s fine, you can and should monetize your work, but your enterprise and open source editions seem separate.
You get the code with the Enterprise version, so it is open source but under the Enterprise license. The community edition is open source under an MIT license. You need a license to get the Enterprise code. Many other software work this way. I'm curious about what their Enterprise license looks like and what you can and can not do with the code.
Comments like this are proof positive to anyone still wondering. In the wild, open source no longer means open source.