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I went to 50 different dentists: almost all gave a different diagnosis (1997)

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Post by baby »

KoftaBob wrote: post #562
baby wrote: post #544

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Dentists in the US* flossing basically doesn’t exist in other parts of the world

Countries where "flossing doesn't exist" are probably places where people have poor oral health and jacked up teeth. I would argue that flossing is even more important than brushing teeth, since the food particles stuck between teeth are more likely to stick around and feed the bacteria that cause cavities and bad breath.

> Countries where "flossing doesn't exist" are probably places where people have poor oral health and jacked up teeth

Said someone who probably never travelled in Europe

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Post by dave7 »

Groxx wrote: post #414
toxik wrote: post #55

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Have you tried a waterpik? Considering an investment there myself.

I'll toss in that floss has done practically nothing for me for decades. Getting a waterpik immediately made a huge improvement in just about everything. (I can't speak to plaque because I can't really measure it myself. But dentists seem to think I'm flossing quite well now. ha.) I get so much more food junk out of my teeth with the waterpik. Floss never has and still never does remove much of it - even flossing, mo…

> I still keep floss handy for getting truly wedged stuff out (it can provide much more force), but it's worthless for me otherwise.

One thing I wish I learned earlier on in life - flossing isn't to pull out chunks of food from in between the teeth (although it can do this too) - if you're flossing correctly you're breaking up biofilms formed by bacteria at the gumline.

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Post by tremon »

lowkey wrote: post #480
colordrops wrote: post #245

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This whole fear of being labeled a "conspiracy nut" for exploring less trodden paths needs to end. Calling people conspiracy nuts for looking behind curtains they shouldn't was a good tactic by various entities to cover up secrets and misdeeds, but it has spilled over into the non political arena and poisoned everything. Humans don't have a full understanding of everything, and in fact it's quite the opposite, in tha…

I don’t think it is possible to end the derogatory use of the term conspiracy theorist universally, but I do have some hope that we can put a stop to it’s use as an ad hominem here on Hacker News. It is never used in the spirit of promoting insightful discussion. Instead it is used to shut down a line of inquiry in its tracks. It’s like calling someone an anti-semite. It is used as a soft form of censorship, to disqu…

What you're suggesting leads to an offense/defense asymmetry. Spouting a conspiracy theory usually takes very little effort from the poster, they're either intimately familiar with it already or they just copy-paste the talking points from somewhere else (or both). Expecting others to write a deep rebuttal every time takes a lot of time, it basically amounts to a DDOS attack.

I reserve the right to dismiss low-quality posts with a low-quality answer. And yes, that's a judgement call. There is no way around that.

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Post by sensanaty »

gcanyon wrote: post #437
Waterluvian wrote: post #47

My son when 3 had a fall and a few teeth were bent. Went to our local dentist who mostly had a wait and see opinion. But then calls a day later and says they’ve decided they should just come out. Two top front teeth. Would have no top front teeth for years. I went into engineer mode and while I acknowledged I didn’t have domain expertise, I asked questions and probed the whole situation. Very unsatisfactory, meanderi…

I was probably four when I fell against the sandbox in the playground and knocked one of my top front teeth right out. I carried it inside to the teacher, who had me bite on a paper towel to stop the bleeding and sent me home with the tooth wrapped in another paper towel in my pocket. About a week later I fell against a large wooden block in the classroom and knocked the other top front tooth clean out. I went for so…

My friend it seems to me like you should be wearing mouthguards more often, with how often you seem to get your front teeth hit somehow!

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Post by CyberDildonics »

colordrops wrote: post #245
basisword wrote: post #164

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>> I’m not a conspiracy nut. I believe in listening to experts (but ultimately making an informed decision). I believe in modern medicine. But that experience shook me and forever changed my trust in the dental industry. Ask anybody who’s experienced a “chronic” illness about the “experts” and they’ll tell you a tale or two. The experts are great until they have a case that is unusual. The don’t have the time or know…

This whole fear of being labeled a "conspiracy nut" for exploring less trodden paths needs to end. Calling people conspiracy nuts for looking behind curtains they shouldn't was a good tactic by various entities to cover up secrets and misdeeds, but it has spilled over into the non political arena and poisoned everything. Humans don't have a full understanding of everything, and in fact it's quite the opposite, in tha…

This whole fear of being labeled a "conspiracy nut" for exploring less trodden paths needs to end

People get called conspiracy nuts when they make big claims with no real evidence. That is the opposite of 'science and exploration'. The difference is always evidence. Go on a conspiracy site and ask for hard evidence of anything and they will get very upset.

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Post by jareklupinski »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #444
mpsprd wrote: post #409

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Doctors are technicians. Technicians with a large toolkit, but technicians nonetheless. When you compare their behaviors to IT it all starts making sense.

Being a doctor is like debugging a unique humongous software application with thousands of years of organic patchwork added by a godlike AI which just generates random code and watches the failed experiments die, no source code to any of it just the final binary, no debugger that lets you kill the process and dump its memory or trace its execution, just a bunch of test cases that cost lots of money to run and may yie…

thats why i majored in biomed engineering but stopped short of going into medical school

a lot of the 'magic' around being human evaporates when you have to quantify the 'worth' of any particular organ

untangling this closed-source blob always reveals secrets: 2023 just had an update to anatomy! https://www.urmc.rochester.edu/news/story/newly-discovered-a...

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Post by entropicgravity »

Aerbil313 wrote: post #520
entropicgravity wrote: post #107

If you have an ongoing problem of plaque/tartar build up on your teeth then this BBC article[1] could be a life changer for you. It was for me. After a year of doing it right my gums are now close to perfect. I notice though that neither my hygenist's or my dentist's office has been handing out information about this approach. Not good for business perhaps. I believe this technique works via abrasion so toothpaste is…

> my gums are now close to perfect. Do you mean that your gums were shrinked and then growed back to their full height? Or that they were sore and not anymore?

No unfortunately gums don't grow back very much. What I mean is that my gums don't bleed any more because the tartar no longer inflames the gum tissues.

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Post by nazka »

Waterluvian wrote: post #47

My son when 3 had a fall and a few teeth were bent. Went to our local dentist who mostly had a wait and see opinion. But then calls a day later and says they’ve decided they should just come out. Two top front teeth. Would have no top front teeth for years. I went into engineer mode and while I acknowledged I didn’t have domain expertise, I asked questions and probed the whole situation. Very unsatisfactory, meanderi…

Thank you to share you story. Well no need to go into conspiracy it’s what is happening and you can see it in our field. Look at all the Oracle consultants out there. :) I would never recommend Oracle for anything. But how can a non tech guy know? All the non tech companies use it, even the top 500… So even more impossible to see that as a non tech guy.

I am sure you came across many staff engineers with +10 years of exp that will give weird ideas too and architecture decisions, tech choice etc.. it’s everywhere not just for dentists.

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Post by swe_dima »

ProjectArcturis wrote: post #405
swe_dima wrote: post #269

When I was in beginning of my 20s I would put blind trust in doctors. Unfortunately I had a ligament tear in my knee and after 4 surgeries I developed some pretty bad pains. I took a vacation and scheduled visits to 10 orthopedic surgeons who had some of the highest medical credentials in the country. Everyone told me that pain was caused by a different thing and dismissed ideas of other doctors. The confidence with…

Did you ever get it solved? Also, they just discovered a new ligament in the knee a few years ago. Orthopedic science is not where a layman would imagine it to be.

I think I solved it to a reasonable degree given the situation.

Took a few years and about 50 of PRP and hyaluronic acid injections inside the knee joint, one SVF procedure (probably the most efficient thing), and regular muscle strengtening.

MRI shows that missing cartilage in my knee has grown back.

Funny thing, if you Google right now "can cartilage in the knee grow back?" you are going to get a "NO" except for some experimental treatments.

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