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Post by SenHeng »

mjan22640 wrote: post #295
Dalewyn wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the moral here is there is an unhealthy dash of sensationalism and propaganda that must be sifted away, if we actually want to take any worthwhile information out of this. As the saying goes, the first casualty in war is truth.

I am curious what is the point of the omnipresent "Russia is doomed" propaganda in the first place? People are emotionally uninvested in Russia, and Russia itself is in practice irrelevant. What is to gain here by manipulating the public opinion in this way?

It makes people indifferent to the plight of the Ukrainians and promotes both sides-ism. Too many smart, intelligent, totally normally people that I usually respect and go to advice for, when asked about the Ukraine war have the opinion that 'Russia shouldn't have invaded but it was America's fault anyway because wavy hands. American should tell Ukraine to stop fighting and give up the land the belonged to Russia(USSR) anyway'.

edit: I mis-read your post and got the reverse intention. Here's the reverse answer.

By presenting Russia as on the brink of implosion, it gives the impression that the Ukrainians just have to hold on for a little bit more and everything bad will go away.

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Post by 3LazTjBv-f »

a2xd94 wrote: post #129

Everything is completely and totally under control, comrades, no need for panic! These sort of statements by the Russian government truly invoke Chernobyl-like images in my mind ; deception piled upon lies piled upon misinformation with a cherry of whataboutism on top.

It looks from outside that they are doing relatively OK. Ruble still didn't crater, the high prices of fossil fuels partially compensated lower exports. They try to increase the trade with China and India to offset sanctions.

Of course, like it was said many times before, war economy works - until it doesn't. It will be very hard to time such collapse: it might be next week, next month or even not before the war itself ends.

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Post by rootsudo »

anticodon wrote: post #61
parl_match wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, in America I don't think we have rules against reintroducing planes involved in deadly incidents, but are still airworthy. The shrine is a bit wild, though.

We have a word for US movies and books portraying Russia: "klukva" (cranberry). Because in every US made movie and US written book amount of lies and confabulations about Russian history and Russian culture is so high, that it deserves a special word. E.g. I was reading a book recently by John le Carré and had to stop after reading about 50 pages. I simply couldn't continue. E.g. there's a scene where Russian traitor…

This is all interesting - would you be willing to go on more about Russian vernacular/stereotypes? My background is solely USA and I find it really impossible to learn these things - online. I do think the easiest way would be to go out and make Russian friends and such but - ideally that isn't something I want to really do. I guess I could try to find online communities of Russians, but even then - it is conflating a country to a language (which I think is sort of uniformly spoken in several countries?)

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Post by grishka »

throw-ru-938 wrote: post #325
grishka wrote: post #283

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Kazakh and Belarusian banks open cards for Russians with no questions asked. There are services that do it online for you. You only need a passport (the international kind).

Georgia is also a good choice, but you need to be physically present in the country. (It's a nice place though, but maybe not in August.) I don't recommend Armenia, the banks here have cracked down on tourists opening cards, and if you see someone offering you an Armenian card it's 100% a scam.

I heard of Georgian banks closing people's accounts with a week's notice for being "high risk" or something. It's a gamble.

In Armenia, at least when I visited in December, I was told that "if you want an Armenian card, it can be done in 2 days for 25000 rubles that you put in your account". Not sure which bank it was.

I also know people who opened cards in Indonesia and Turkey.

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Post by ssabev »

aunty_helen wrote: post #139
ssabev wrote: post #26

This is probably going to be just the tip of the iceberg. There was already articles around cannibalisation of planes so that you can service and repair an ever dwindling number of aircraft. If it keeps going on for another year or two it's not going to be good

This literally happens everyday, everywhere and to every airline. Sometimes even between airlines. I’ve personally been responsible for a part getting pulled off another engine from another airline and swapped for one that got its electrical connector damaged so the engine would ship on time. There is a whole industry of buyers and sellers of 2nd hand aircraft parts.

I know absolutely. However they can order spare parts. AFAIK, Russia is now cut off. Unless they can smuggle some from Kazakhstan, China or somewhere else it will be SOL for those airframes at one point.

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Post by throwaway290 »

piskov wrote: post #331
throwaway290 wrote: post #273

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As a Russian I'd say this guy lives in some other country. Probably imaginary. Based on how little reality there is in the comment I would not believe comments about airplane brakes either... Not a single person I know much less their kids has "foreign crypto virtual cards" etc. Ofc even if they had they would be locked out of transacting with any serious business that doesn't take crypto. The exodus is real, ask Arm…

> crypto virtual card The cards are not “crypto” — they are very much ordinary virtual (or even physical) visa/mastercard ones. You use p2p crypto to top-up them with real dollars from RUB. It takes around 5 minutes to get a virtual Visa card. And if you want to get a physical one (for traveling), there are a lot of countries (even NATO ones) where you can get one with no problem at all. > any serious business that d…

Turkey and others crack down on this regularly. Besides if you have the money to go to Turkey or pay extra to unscrupulous forwarders it means you are already well off, if the regime pays you well then good for you I guess. People in remote villages that supply new meat for the war don't have that luxury. They only have a TV that tells them everything is fine

Yes even in Iran people manage to buy foreign goods and find ways to work around sanctions. But if you say "Russia is becoming like Iran/North Korea" and "Russia is thriving" are the same then I rest my case.

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Post by throwaway290 »

rootsudo wrote: post #323
throwaway290 wrote: post #273

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a Russian I'd say this guy lives in some other country. Probably imaginary. Based on how little reality there is in the comment I would not believe comments about airplane brakes either... Not a single person I know much less their kids has "foreign crypto virtual cards" etc. Ofc even if they had they would be locked out of transacting with any serious business that doesn't take crypto. The exodus is real, ask Arm…

The Russians I’ve run into in Argentina, Indonesia, Thailand , Philippines, Japan, China, HK and other Asian countries all have crypto cards and use crypto very candidly. They also are filling up and creating demand for crypto services in these areas. I’ve seen Facebook posts and instagram pages marketing Russian crypto services and investment - real estate, business and the vector of payment transfer is crypto and s…

Yes, on flip side Russian crypto peddlers are a dime a dozen and a scourge on public chat groups etc.

People I know tend to find proper jobs though, it's not impossible. But better do it in EU/US/AU etc, in Argentina even locals often resort to crypto due to economy

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Post by flangola7 »

Dalewyn wrote: post #219
flangola7 wrote: post #208

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But there's no sensationalism or propaganda here.

There's a mile wide difference between "disabling some brakes according to manuals" and "disabling all brakes and relying on just the thrust reversers". I know it's cool to harp that Russia is doomed, but propaganda is bad regardless whether it's coming from the Russians or the west.

No one here is claiming Russia is doomed, I don't care about the west or Russia or whatever. Flying a plane without a full complement of brakes is foolhardy all by itself.

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Post by Rapzid »

nocoiner wrote: post #298
Rapzid wrote: post #271

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> But you'd be surprised how often it actually leaks into supposedly serious reasoning I live in Texas and let me tell you I believe I know exactly how you feel. A lot of people's entire perception of this state is based on agitprop headlines they consume. To the point where the other day, on HN, everyone is an expert on Texas energy production and policy desperate to dunk on the state based on a headline about a tem…

But if I live here, then I automatically hold a “Texas energy production expert” card, right? Actually, surely it’d be a badge. Anyway, I automatically get the badge… right, pardner?

Yes, it's a badge.

My point isn't about being an expert or not, it's about the ability to have honest, reasoned, and researched conversations.

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