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Re: Some tactics for writing in public

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Post by lucideer »

metadat wrote: post #143
lucideer wrote: post #37

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I think the sexual interpretation is pretty strong (at least today) - "groping" and "groper" have slightly different vibes - that warrants removal today imo. But yeah, I'm not sure if that was the case in the 80s. --- Edit: as pointed out below I hadn't noticed when I wrote this that the offending mastodon replies were apparently deleted so the 3 replies I mention here aren't actually relevant --- I did click through…

Kinda harsh that Julia chose to block people for what boiled down to asking genuine questions without intent to offend. Shrug, it's her choice and a valid move. But by employing the approach of "block-o-matic for all dissenters" strategy, the author has lost some credibility with me. I also found it odd that the author cherry-picked a dictionary site which only contained the definition she found offensive. If you put…

Blocking people for "just asking questions" is fine - such questions are more often than not wolf-whistles, especially in conversations involving sexual abuse. But I did find her language in the replies odd - the level of bad faith assumed seemed inexplicable.

Re: Some tactics for writing in public

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Post by TRiG_Ireland »

zer8k wrote: post #178
TRiG_Ireland wrote: post #161

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HN is a forum attached to a venture capitalist company. The idea that it is in any way left-leaning is farcical.

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Greta Christina has an excellent article about why "Socially liberal, fiscally conservative" is mostly nonsense. Fiscally conservative means socially conservative in almost every way that actually matters.

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/here-are-7-things-people-wh...

Re: Some tactics for writing in public

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Post by wilde »

guy98238710 wrote: post #133

Is it just me or is this post screaming with self-consciousness and political correctness? Author is self-censoring policy suggestions and social/cultural insights, which I personally find interesting to write and read about, especially the weirder ones that provide transformational experience. And the dig-related blocking is just jarring. It makes it look like the author is quick on the trigger. PS: I just noticed t…

The author is saying that they want to write things that generate discussion threads of interest to them. You have different interests.

Quick on the trigger is exactly the point of the dig example. The author is reminding you that you have control over what you see and you should use it. Most people have a set of topics they can’t constructively engage in debate over. That’s fine. I’d rather they conserve their energy and keep posting on topics where they can.

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Upvote means I agree. Downvote means I disagree. You might have other opinions about what they should represent but the nature of voting systems is that they trend towards this. Like how I wish people would rate things 3/5 by default rather than 5/5. Sadly only IMDB ended up like this.

Re: Some tactics for writing in public

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Post by spencerflem »

zer8k wrote: post #178
TRiG_Ireland wrote: post #161

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HN is a forum attached to a venture capitalist company. The idea that it is in any way left-leaning is farcical.

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you do not understand the what it means to be 'mid to far left' if you think that it means 'socially liberal.'

leftist = anti-capitalist, social programs, unions, worker-coops, etc.

i hate to break it to you, but socially liberal is the mainstream centrist opinion now. Gay marriage has 70+% support, trans rights and abortion are both over 50%, my backwater suburb turned up in huge numbers for Black Lives Matter, etc.

Re: Some tactics for writing in public

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Post by maksimur »

lapcat wrote: post #189
worthless-trash wrote: post #188

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I'm not in the habit of keeping recorded data of on these, but internet witch hunts are not a new thing. I'll let you search for it.

> I'll let you search for it. No, you made the existence claim, so the burden of proof is on you: > regular "anonymous randos" get doxed regularly and the crazies call up an demand they be 'fired', they get threats to their family, friends and livelyhood. You can't even provide one example? I'll let you search for it. I'm not going to search for unicorns or pots of gold at the end of rainbows.

Writing style and unique patterns (like time of posting, argument frequency, ideology affiliation, and so on) are some of the things that could reveal someone’s identity and result in actions taken against him.

Re: Some tactics for writing in public

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Post by schneems »

lapcat wrote: post #169
schneems wrote: post #167

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I’m a mod on /r/ruby and it’s got 80,000 subscribers. I like to think it’s not “beyond moderation”. We have fairly aggressive rules (around tone and impact) and very high standards and I would say most of the time the community meets or exceeds those standards I think there are limits but I also don’t feel that most platforms have hit them or really even tried. Most platforms that would benefit from a stronger sense…

> I’m a mod on /r/ruby and it’s got 80,000 subscribers. I think that's smaller than Hacker News, which has only 1 or 2 moderators, whereas it appears that r/ruby has 8 moderators? As far as scale is concerned, it looks like r/ruby had 19 comments within the past 24 hours? https://www.reddit.com/r/ruby/comments/ Whereas HN had 19 comments within the past 2 minutes. https://news.ycombinator.com/newcomments And a site l…

I don’t disagree with any differences you pointed out. I still think a lot of the internet could have much higher standards than it does today.

Re: Some tactics for writing in public

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Post by lapcat »

maksimur wrote: post #195
lapcat wrote: post #189

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> I'll let you search for it. No, you made the existence claim, so the burden of proof is on you: > regular "anonymous randos" get doxed regularly and the crazies call up an demand they be 'fired', they get threats to their family, friends and livelyhood. You can't even provide one example? I'll let you search for it. I'm not going to search for unicorns or pots of gold at the end of rainbows.

Writing style and unique patterns (like time of posting, argument frequency, ideology affiliation, and so on) are some of the things that could reveal someone’s identity and result in actions taken against him.

> that could

The question isn't whether it's possible, the question is whether it actually happens.

Re: Some tactics for writing in public

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Post by lapcat »

worthless-trash wrote: post #190
lapcat wrote: post #189

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> I'll let you search for it. No, you made the existence claim, so the burden of proof is on you: > regular "anonymous randos" get doxed regularly and the crazies call up an demand they be 'fired', they get threats to their family, friends and livelyhood. You can't even provide one example? I'll let you search for it. I'm not going to search for unicorns or pots of gold at the end of rainbows.

I can, but why bother when you're itching for a fight over the obvious. Enjoy your day.

> I can, but why bother

Because that's how discussions are supposed to work. You make a claim, and you support your claim with evidence and reasons. You don't refuse to give evidence and run away just because your interlocutor disagrees with you. After all, what would be the point in providing evidence to someone who already agrees with you?

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Post by ffpq »

spencerflem wrote: post #194
zer8k wrote: post #178

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you do not understand the what it means to be 'mid to far left' if you think that it means 'socially liberal.' leftist = anti-capitalist, social programs, unions, worker-coops, etc. i hate to break it to you, but socially liberal is the mainstream centrist opinion now. Gay marriage has 70+% support, trans rights and abortion are both over 50%, my backwater suburb turned up in huge numbers for Black Lives Matter, etc.

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