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PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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In that spirit, if you have an EFI system, you don't need GRUB

You sort of do if you want to boot kernels on btrfs. Refind is an option, but not most of the other EFI bootloaders.

You put the kernel (built with efistub) directly onto the EFI partition - no boot loaded needed at all.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Oh I didn't know that. Those versions aren't accessible for us plebs :)

If you're referring to Visual Studio, then Visual Studio Community[0] is free (for individuals and "non-enterprise organizations") and is equivalent to Visual Studio Professional. [0]: https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/community/

The console SDKs. I know what Visual Studios are available for Windows. Until 18 hours ago I had no idea you can develop for Nintendo/Sony with it.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Windows and its ecosystem have already become a telemetry monster; if you're fine with everything else, you ought to be fine with this. The linked Intel support page shows the simple instructions for opting out of the telemetry. Having said that, 2022 was already the year of the Linux desktop. Everything works. KDE gets better every week. Be the owner of your technology. Join us!

>> Everything works. I'm a video games developer. Neither PS5, Xbox nor Switch toolchains work under linux - not to mention that actual proper Visual Studio doesn't and that alone is worth staying on windows for. For playing games though - sure, Linux is already great. Steam Deck proves that by playing pretty much everything flawlessly.

FWIW at least cl.exe and msbuild work just fine under Wine. I never cared for the IDE so no idea how well it runs but if you just need to build VS projects you can do that.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Windows and its ecosystem have already become a telemetry monster; if you're fine with everything else, you ought to be fine with this. The linked Intel support page shows the simple instructions for opting out of the telemetry. Having said that, 2022 was already the year of the Linux desktop. Everything works. KDE gets better every week. Be the owner of your technology. Join us!

Companies have not yet woken up to the idea that implementing this kind of telemetry is effectively leaking their private business data to third parties (competitors even). Nobody's been so obviously burned by it yet that the lawsuits have started flying. Just imagine the kind of data (say) Microsoft is leaking to Google, via all those users running Chrome. How about all those AMD users who are running Intel/NVIDIA g…

Economic espionage is the largest field of espionage. Although I guess if any big tech company would get caught, there will be repercussions for their business.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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>> Everything works. I'm a video games developer. Neither PS5, Xbox nor Switch toolchains work under linux - not to mention that actual proper Visual Studio doesn't and that alone is worth staying on windows for. For playing games though - sure, Linux is already great. Steam Deck proves that by playing pretty much everything flawlessly.

>For playing games though - sure, Linux is already great. Steam Deck proves that by playing pretty much everything flawlessly. The caveat is that this is only true when applied to games on Steam . I play games that aren't on Steam, and I've not even bothered to see if they would run on Linux because it's just not worth my time. (No, I do not expect something in Japanese that communicates with DMM Game Player for user…

Wine is older than Steam on Linux. And Valve's enhanced Wine aka Proton can be used independently of Steam. The deciding factor is not whether the game is on Steam but whether it uses draconian DRM or anti-cheat that requires and actual Windows kernel.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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>For playing games though - sure, Linux is already great. Steam Deck proves that by playing pretty much everything flawlessly. The caveat is that this is only true when applied to games on Steam . I play games that aren't on Steam, and I've not even bothered to see if they would run on Linux because it's just not worth my time. (No, I do not expect something in Japanese that communicates with DMM Game Player for user…

Exactly. I refuse to use Steam, so linux is a no go for me. I hate it so much when people equal games to steam.

Linux gaming is not restricted to Steam.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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I think they must mean legacy visual studio, rather than VSCode. VSCode is of course very portable. It also seems to be Microsoft’s (successful) attempt to get everybody to use a reasonable Linux-style workfow. If you look at it as a text editor and terminal in a tiling window manager, it suddenly makes sense that it became so popular.

There is nothing legacy about Visual Studio. There is simply no equivalent of its debugging and profiling capabilities in C++ and C# especially in graphics / game development. No such equivalent exist in Unix world including macOS. They set the bar.

Agreed, but all those features don't help at all if you are doing software for platforms that aren't Windows or apparently the major game consoles.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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You sort of do if you want to boot kernels on btrfs. Refind is an option, but not most of the other EFI bootloaders.

You put the kernel (built with efistub) directly onto the EFI partition - no boot loaded needed at all.

I think there's still value in a bootloader. You can easily load an old kernel with an old initramfs if you messed up somehow, or adjust kernel parameters.

The boot UI for most modern UEFI-Firmwares is really primitive and they usually don't come with EFI shells.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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> To accomplish this, we would like your permission to collect, use, and combine information Oh man, they left a typo in there. Did anybody catch it? They use the word 'permission' when this is actually selected by default for all users who install their drivers. Hey, that's not how you ask for permission! I would love to see the look on their faces when they realize this mistake.

In general, Silicon Valley has a huge problem with / misunderstanding of things like "permission" and "consent." If computing was like dating, Silicon Valley would be a creepy guy in the nightclub constantly telling women: "We are now dating. Do you want to dance? [Yes] [Ask Again Later]"

Everyone is all aboard the consent train until it becomes inconvenient. See all the apps/websites with options for "yes" and "not now". I could never make that a button without feeling gross

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Windows and its ecosystem have already become a telemetry monster; if you're fine with everything else, you ought to be fine with this. The linked Intel support page shows the simple instructions for opting out of the telemetry. Having said that, 2022 was already the year of the Linux desktop. Everything works. KDE gets better every week. Be the owner of your technology. Join us!

The worst thing about linux is that it is made an maintained by people who like linux. I would love more than anything to see a paid fork of linux whose goal was to make a power user friendly user OS that never needs to pull up a CLI. People will come out of woodwork here to suggest whatever shitty half-assed CLI wrapper enviroment. No. No. No. They suck. I have been using them on and off for 20 years. Including righ…

> a power user friendly user OS that never needs to pull up a CLI

ERROR: Does not compute.

A CLI is the pinacle of power user friendlyness.

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