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Aeroflot deactivates brakes on nine aircraft, relies solely on reverse thrust

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Re: Aeroflot deactivates brakes on nine aircraft, relies solely on reverse thrust

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Post by Rapzid »

foverzar wrote: post #114
woodruffw wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't doubt for a minute that Western media is filled with all kinds of ridiculous apocrypha about Russia. At the same time, I've never encountered this kind of ridiculous sensitivity about a country's perception before. Do you think every American drives a pickup truck and owns 12 guns? You probably don't, because you're not a fool; similarly, most Americans don't think that Russians live their lives swizzling vod…

> this kind of ridiculous sensitivity about a country's perception before What's up with these emotive labels? Lots of people (myself included) enjoy klyukva - it's an awesome source of hilariously absurd content. But you'd be surprised how often it actually leaks into supposedly serious reasoning, constantly making you question exactly how far (not even "if") the person you are talking to is detached from objective…

> But you'd be surprised how often it actually leaks into supposedly serious reasoning

I live in Texas and let me tell you I believe I know exactly how you feel. A lot of people's entire perception of this state is based on agitprop headlines they consume. To the point where the other day, on HN, everyone is an expert on Texas energy production and policy desperate to dunk on the state based on a headline about a temporary spike in wholesale energy prices.

Re: Aeroflot deactivates brakes on nine aircraft, relies solely on reverse thrust

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Post by flohofwoe »

SanjayMehta wrote: post #266

The source quoted in the article is “The Moscow Times,” which is not actually located in Moscow, but somewhere in the Netherlands. Not exactly a reliable source.

Only since 2022, before that they had their headquarters in Moscow (since 1992). It would actually be a much less reliable news source if they were still be allowed to operate in Russia ;)

Re: Aeroflot deactivates brakes on nine aircraft, relies solely on reverse thrust

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Post by throwaway290 »

piskov wrote: post #195
bri3d wrote: post #28

I'm curious the actual mechanics of this operation. The main primary-source I found is a Telegram post of an Aeroflot pilot memo [0], but this only discusses the side-effects of reverser only braking, not the mechanics of "disabling the brakes." There is a possibility the brakes are still available and not worn through, and this is a preemptive measure to leave enough brake material to handle an emergency rejected ta…

The story looks like a penny dreadful of “Russia is doomed” series. 1. There’s no info on that Russian slide about actual planes flying without any breaks at all. There’s a manufacturer defined minimum equipment list that allows planes to have some breaks (actual number depends on the type of a plane) disabled for, let’s say, 10 days at the most. This is absolutely normal as planes cannot be serviced constantly (they…

As a Russian I'd say this guy lives in some other country. Probably imaginary. Based on how little reality there is in the comment I would not believe comments about airplane brakes either...

Not a single person I know much less their kids has "foreign crypto virtual cards" etc. Ofc even if they had they would be locked out of transacting with any serious business that doesn't take crypto.

The exodus is real, ask Armenians, Kazakhs, Georgians Finns or by now probably Argentinians. 30% of all people I know left. The government declared amnesty for any criminal who agrees to serve in the army for some time, and people know that all those murderers and rapists are coming back to the streets and dark alleys when Russia is kicked out of Ukraine. (Some people want to leave but stay because in their head they think everyone abroad except China hates them for actions of Putler, which is part of Russian propaganda designed to slow down brain drain.)

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Post by bobthepanda »

hedgehog wrote: post #233
WalterBright wrote: post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maintenance issues are constantly fed back to the design teams that adjust the designs.

Oh for sure, but I'm guessing it's rare for an operator with modern aircraft to aggressively defer maintenance to the extent it sounds like is happening over there. Toyota has plenty of data about what happens to a Camry if it goes a few years with no oil changes (because people) but does Boeing have similar data to draw from?

We just had a roughly three year period where planes meant to be running more or less constantly were consigned to desert parking lots due to lack of travel demand.

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Post by [deleted] »

SoftTalker wrote: post #239
tguvot wrote: post #130

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they don't have proper specs, manufacturing equipment, materials, engineers, machinists, etc. they been trying to source parts from india, china, iran, etc.

You can get Chinese copies of almost any part for any car, a lot of them aren't very good but they are inexpensive and that's tempting for a lot of people who do their own repairs, or bottom-feeder shops. And sometimes they actually aren't too bad. A big reason this may not be true for aircraft parts is that in most countries buying unapproved aftermarket parts is illegal at least for commercial airlines. Not so for…

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Post by [deleted] »

anticodon wrote: post #61
parl_match wrote: post #13

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To be fair, in America I don't think we have rules against reintroducing planes involved in deadly incidents, but are still airworthy. The shrine is a bit wild, though.

We have a word for US movies and books portraying Russia: "klukva" (cranberry). Because in every US made movie and US written book amount of lies and confabulations about Russian history and Russian culture is so high, that it deserves a special word. E.g. I was reading a book recently by John le Carré and had to stop after reading about 50 pages. I simply couldn't continue. E.g. there's a scene where Russian traitor…

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Re: Aeroflot deactivates brakes on nine aircraft, relies solely on reverse thrust

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Post by antondd »

piskov wrote: post #195
bri3d wrote: post #28

I'm curious the actual mechanics of this operation. The main primary-source I found is a Telegram post of an Aeroflot pilot memo [0], but this only discusses the side-effects of reverser only braking, not the mechanics of "disabling the brakes." There is a possibility the brakes are still available and not worn through, and this is a preemptive measure to leave enough brake material to handle an emergency rejected ta…

The story looks like a penny dreadful of “Russia is doomed” series. 1. There’s no info on that Russian slide about actual planes flying without any breaks at all. There’s a manufacturer defined minimum equipment list that allows planes to have some breaks (actual number depends on the type of a plane) disabled for, let’s say, 10 days at the most. This is absolutely normal as planes cannot be serviced constantly (they…

Do you work in the airline industry? Any source on the “absolutely no shortage of airline parts in russia”?

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Post by [deleted] »

WalterBright wrote: post #190
hedgehog wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would be curious about things like lubrication and the hydraulic systems where deferring maintenance is easy but repairs once there are problems are potentially very costly. Hopefully the manufacturers can get some of the data back, it seems like this kind of deferred maintenance is an experiment nobody would run willingly but given that it's happening the data could help improve safe and efficient fleet operations…

Maintenance issues are constantly fed back to the design teams that adjust the designs.

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Post by tgv »

martin8412 wrote: post #230
fbdab103 wrote: post #215

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I am more surprised there is not a sufficiently rich black-market operation going around sanctions. Random site[0] says, >In general, airplane brakes can last between 1000-2000 landings before they are changed. An active airplane makes an estimate of two landings per day; this means the airplane needs to be changed after 18-36 months. Even at multiple brake pads(?) per plane, that does not sound an insurmountable amo…

Black market from where? If caught selling parts to Russia, you'll be banned by Airbus and Boeing, meaning you can't maintain your own fleet.

A few days ago there was an article about European merchants evading the trading bans on a large scale. They'll get the brakes. If Russia can afford their price.
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