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Tesla, Inc. 8-k filing – CFO leaves Tesla

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Re: Tesla, Inc. 8-k filing – CFO leaves Tesla

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Post by whinenot »

andreygrehov wrote: post #21
cududa wrote: post #16

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The vast majority of the time it’s a big deal, which makes it newsworthy. As well, any well run company would announce at least a few quarters in advance that the CFO is leaving. They don’t abruptly quit or get fired after 13 years without something brewing

With respect, I do not think this is a newsworthy case. > Mr. Kirkhorn will continue to serve Tesla through the end of the year to support a seamless transition. Absolutely zero things to discuss here.

You must be new here. Many companies keep ex-C-levels nominally employed as 'consultants' so their stock can vest (which is typically the bulk of their compensation) and avoid any expensive/public lawsuits. It's paying them off to quietly go away without spending any cash.

Re: Tesla, Inc. 8-k filing – CFO leaves Tesla

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Post by hypeit »

unusualmonkey wrote: post #78
hypeit wrote: post #75

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You mean between not taking business seriously and making choices that put people's lives in danger? He was told by his team lidar was a better solution and on a whim he killed it, that's a pretty big connection!

You've not established that has anything to do with titles. Nor have you established killing lidar was a bad idea, or puts people's lives in danger. Remember that hype isn't the same as substance.

I didn't say anything about titles. I said taking business less serious is how you make frivolous decisions like ripping out lidar. I'm hardly the only person who finds his moves suspect:

https://www.reuters.com/technology/us-sec-probes-elon-musks-...

Re: Tesla, Inc. 8-k filing – CFO leaves Tesla

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Post by hypeit »

mulmen wrote: post #69
hypeit wrote: post #45

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> I welcome the day where we treat business less seriously. Teslas can and do kill people. Taking business "less seriously" is how you do things like remove lidar and label the hobbled driver assist as "full self-driving". I doubt people who have had family members killed by a Tesla think these titles are cute and "fun".

Uptight corporate environments are demoralizing and dehumanizing. It may be possible that by having some fun at work Tesla is able to make their cars safer.

I mean Tesla is notorious for poor working conditions. Musk may be having fun, but that's not the general experience of working at his companies.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/18/tesla-wor...

Re: Tesla, Inc. 8-k filing – CFO leaves Tesla

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Post by lyapunova »

starchild3001 wrote: post #53

Given the animosity Elon Musk has displayed towards former and current Xitter employees, it should surprise us more that people keep working with him. People leaving him is not surprising. Deciding to work with him is surprising.

Serious question - not trying to be cute or funny - is Xitter pronounced like "sitter", "ksitter", or "shitter"?

Re: Tesla, Inc. 8-k filing – CFO leaves Tesla

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Post by mulmen »

hypeit wrote: post #83
mulmen wrote: post #69

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Uptight corporate environments are demoralizing and dehumanizing. It may be possible that by having some fun at work Tesla is able to make their cars safer.

I mean Tesla is notorious for poor working conditions. Musk may be having fun, but that's not the general experience of working at his companies. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/18/tesla-wor...

No kidding. Musk isn’t a fun person to work for. So instead of flaming one tiny fun thing you could celebrate it or at least ignore it. Making Tesla more uptight isn’t going to improve working conditions.

Re: Tesla, Inc. 8-k filing – CFO leaves Tesla

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Post by specialist »

ChuckMcM wrote: post #65
wonderwonder wrote: post #61

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How much of Tesla do you think is Musk? For example, if Zuck choked Musk to death in a cage fight, what do you think would happen to the stock? Obviously the odds of this happening are close to 0 but after investing heavily in Tesla I came to the conclusion (perhaps wrongly) that a good deal of the value in tesla stock is tied to Musk. He could get hit by a bus tomorrow. So I sold and put it all in an index fund that…

The more I see of Musk on Twitter the lower I judge his future impact at Tesla. Tesla going forward is going to have to grow its customer facing side and Musk seems unsuited to solving problems that involve humans and emotions. Could be completely wrong of course, often am. That said, I too divested myself 100%.

Having 𝕏 distract Musk may prove to be a boon for both SpaceX and Tesla.

From the cheap seats, it looks like both have terrific strategies and now need to be left alone to execute.

Re: Tesla, Inc. 8-k filing – CFO leaves Tesla

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Post by NotYourLawyer »

hypeit wrote: post #80
NotYourLawyer wrote: post #72

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He’s been in that position for 13 years. It’s not like anything Musk is doing is new.

You can only keep the corruption going for so long. Maybe there's someone new at the SEC that will actually go after him, maybe the shareholder have finally had enough. It could be anything but the CFO headed for the door in a company notorious for fraud speaks to a potential reckoning.

This is such a ridiculous take it doesn’t even bear responding to.

Re: Tesla, Inc. 8-k filing – CFO leaves Tesla

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Post by bawolff »

toolz wrote: post #13
bawolff wrote: post #3

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For anyone else wondering, the master of the coin title is just musk being trying to be cute https://winteriscoming.net/2021/03/16/tesla-executive-offici... . For a moment i was wondering if that was an actual common corporate title.

Maybe more charitably stated, it's a fun title to break the monotony of common titles. Surely just because we disagree with musk on other decisions we don't have to denigrate some harmless fun. I welcome the day where we treat business less seriously.

Personally i think it sounds more cringe than fun. Although i agree generally that it doesn't really matter and there are more than enough real things to care about that he has done.

Re: Tesla, Inc. 8-k filing – CFO leaves Tesla

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Post by [deleted] »

hypeit wrote: post #82
unusualmonkey wrote: post #78

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You've not established that has anything to do with titles. Nor have you established killing lidar was a bad idea, or puts people's lives in danger. Remember that hype isn't the same as substance.

I didn't say anything about titles. I said taking business less serious is how you make frivolous decisions like ripping out lidar. I'm hardly the only person who finds his moves suspect: https://www.reuters.com/technology/us-sec-probes-elon-musks-...

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Re: Tesla, Inc. 8-k filing – CFO leaves Tesla

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Post by pstuart »

ChuckMcM wrote: post #65
wonderwonder wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How much of Tesla do you think is Musk? For example, if Zuck choked Musk to death in a cage fight, what do you think would happen to the stock? Obviously the odds of this happening are close to 0 but after investing heavily in Tesla I came to the conclusion (perhaps wrongly) that a good deal of the value in tesla stock is tied to Musk. He could get hit by a bus tomorrow. So I sold and put it all in an index fund that…

The more I see of Musk on Twitter the lower I judge his future impact at Tesla. Tesla going forward is going to have to grow its customer facing side and Musk seems unsuited to solving problems that involve humans and emotions. Could be completely wrong of course, often am. That said, I too divested myself 100%.

What confuses me is that Musk's behavior is abhorrent to the "typical" Tesla buyer.
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