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PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Post by v3ss0n »

royal_ts wrote: post #46
inktype wrote: post #31

Windows and its ecosystem have already become a telemetry monster; if you're fine with everything else, you ought to be fine with this. The linked Intel support page shows the simple instructions for opting out of the telemetry. Having said that, 2022 was already the year of the Linux desktop. Everything works. KDE gets better every week. Be the owner of your technology. Join us!

KDE is great but also very, very buggy. I'm using it since 2016 and some bugs just won't go away and good luck with openeing a bug report - nobody will care. Especially multi monitor support just isn't good. Multi window support is also, by default, not as good as Windows does it. Sicne a few updates I'm getting some polciykit errors everytime I'm doing anything session related just because - I have not found a solut…

Use Manjaro, KDE focused arch linuxes, they have latest KDE , I am using KDE dedicated Linuxes ( Gentoo, arch) and past 5 years is a blast for KDE. Much stable.for WM I am using QTile because itis best tiling wm that works with KDE application

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Post by bravetraveler »

heyoni wrote: post #93
yummypaint wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair this is adobe's fault. The only reason it isn't available on linux is because adobe goes to great technical and legal lengths to ensure it can't be. A VM with seamless windowing isn't a bad solution for running that kind of forcewear, compromising the whole host OS seems excessive.

I wonder if it would work under a vfio system.

Almost surely! Outside of seeing obvious signs like VirtIO devices, one can go to great lengths to hide the virtualization

Similar tricks that work for the ESEA Anti Cheat client and Nvidia code 43 will likely suffice

VFIO takes this a step further and provides one less virtualized device

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Post by freedude »

throw_m239339 wrote: post #63
ginko wrote: post #9

How can engineers working on this even look at themselves without being ashamed? For the record: I'm a graphics driver engineer myself.

> How can engineers working on this even look at themselves without being ashamed? These aren't engineering decisions but marketing ones. The role of an engineer is to engineer a solution, not make business decisions. The decision to turn telemetry on by default was not taken by an engineer, so engineers at intel shouldn't feel ashamed of anything at first place.

> The decision to turn telemetry on by default was not taken by an engineer, so engineers at intel shouldn't feel ashamed of anything at first place.

And this lack of accountability is exactly why our world is the way it is. Just remember anyone can justify evil behavior if they try hard enough. Why? because people are not basically good by nature. They are basically evil by nature. Observe any 2-3 year old throwing a fit and you might begin to grasp the concept.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Post by marcosdumay »

royal_ts wrote: post #46
inktype wrote: post #31

Windows and its ecosystem have already become a telemetry monster; if you're fine with everything else, you ought to be fine with this. The linked Intel support page shows the simple instructions for opting out of the telemetry. Having said that, 2022 was already the year of the Linux desktop. Everything works. KDE gets better every week. Be the owner of your technology. Join us!

KDE is great but also very, very buggy. I'm using it since 2016 and some bugs just won't go away and good luck with openeing a bug report - nobody will care. Especially multi monitor support just isn't good. Multi window support is also, by default, not as good as Windows does it. Sicne a few updates I'm getting some polciykit errors everytime I'm doing anything session related just because - I have not found a solut…

Debian (stable) user here. I'm also scratching my head trying to understand what bugs you find on KDE. Or what kind of multi-monitor or window behavior you have a problem with when compared to Windows. (Isn't the default window behavior basically equal to Windows? I have never notice a difference in anything that I didn't change myself.)

I too think you were unlucky on your combination of hardware-distro-setup in some unusual way.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Post by postmodest »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #96
inktype wrote: post #31

Windows and its ecosystem have already become a telemetry monster; if you're fine with everything else, you ought to be fine with this. The linked Intel support page shows the simple instructions for opting out of the telemetry. Having said that, 2022 was already the year of the Linux desktop. Everything works. KDE gets better every week. Be the owner of your technology. Join us!

The worst thing about linux is that it is made an maintained by people who like linux. I would love more than anything to see a paid fork of linux whose goal was to make a power user friendly user OS that never needs to pull up a CLI. People will come out of woodwork here to suggest whatever shitty half-assed CLI wrapper enviroment. No. No. No. They suck. I have been using them on and off for 20 years. Including righ…

There is a FreeBSD fork that does exactly that, but to use it you need to buy a $3000 hardware dongle....

That's the path a lot of Mac Users are on, though we also have a telemetry problem; the only advantage is that it stays "in house".

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Post by freedude »

sph wrote: post #98

We need a new rule for tech, that says "Any major tech conglomerate grows until their main source of revenue is tracking and telemetry." Why the fuck does Intel need to know "the category of websites I visit, but not the URL themselves"? Who defines the categories? We all know that metadata is at this point as important as data. Stallman was right.

Now wait and see what AI does with all of that data...

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Post by GartzenDeHaes »

inktype wrote: post #31

Windows and its ecosystem have already become a telemetry monster; if you're fine with everything else, you ought to be fine with this. The linked Intel support page shows the simple instructions for opting out of the telemetry. Having said that, 2022 was already the year of the Linux desktop. Everything works. KDE gets better every week. Be the owner of your technology. Join us!

You might want to into who makes Linux. Intel wrote 23% of the changes for kernel 6.0 and AMD wrote 32%.

https://lwn.net/Articles/909625/

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Post by JohnFen »

Contusion3532 wrote: post #12
ginko wrote: post #9

How can engineers working on this even look at themselves without being ashamed? For the record: I'm a graphics driver engineer myself.

They'll rationalize their behavior, just like most of us do. "All the other companies are already doing it", "No one cares about privacy", "It's not my decision", "We need this data to help the customers".

In other words, they'll lie to themselves.
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