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Re: Not Using Zoom

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Post by evanreichard »

aparnabzoom wrote: post #52

Hi there, I'm the COO of Zoom. We currently do not use audio, video or chat content to train AI models and we would not do so without customer consent. Please see our blog https://blog.zoom.us/zooms-term-service-ai/

Does this also include audio transcripts?

Re: Not Using Zoom

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Post by gjsman-1000 »

StayTrue wrote: post #60
aparnabzoom wrote: post #52

Hi there, I'm the COO of Zoom. We currently do not use audio, video or chat content to train AI models and we would not do so without customer consent. Please see our blog https://blog.zoom.us/zooms-term-service-ai/

The terms of service say you can but the blog says you don't? I feel better.

It's especially annoying because I can count on both hands situations where the blogging / social media team and the engineering / legal teams weren't on the same page. The blogging team sends out a message saying "we don't," while engineering is already working on something that does and legal has signed off because it doesn't violate the Terms.

Re: Not Using Zoom

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Post by prmoustache »

marcosdumay wrote: post #53
arun-mani-j wrote: post #27

While we are it, please don't conduct the meeting in MS Teams unless you are 100% sure that none of the attendees will use Firefox. (Brave also didn't work but refreshing multiple times worked, don't know, why MS wants to pinpoint Edge or Chrome for Teams)

Why? If it's for any technical reason, I've been using Teams in Firefox for many months already, and meetings run just fine.

I tried once to connect to teams on firefox mobile in a private tab just to send a simple message (not a video call) and tell my coworkers I had a medical emergency and was heading to an hospital.

After passing my company's azure SSO login prompts all I got was an error message I had to use Chrome or Mirosoft Edge

Re: Not Using Zoom

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Post by skilled »

aparnabzoom wrote: post #52

Hi there, I'm the COO of Zoom. We currently do not use audio, video or chat content to train AI models and we would not do so without customer consent. Please see our blog https://blog.zoom.us/zooms-term-service-ai/

Will you be updating the ToS to remove the wording that you have used?

Re: Not Using Zoom

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Post by hdjjhhvvhga »

Tangentially related: does anybody know which of the teleconferencing solution has the best audio quality? I'm looking into live music streaming and Zoom/Google Meet seem to offer subpar sound quality, optimizing for latency and using other aspects like noise reduction.

Re: Not Using Zoom

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Post by nolok »

AbraKdabra wrote: post #10

I came directly to the comments to recommend Jitsi instead. Glad the author made the same early in the article.

Does Jitsi (or other) have all the group working features ? Separate a group into many smaller group still under the same call, split and join them at leisure, share screen back and forth, ... ?

Re: Not Using Zoom

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Post by arun-mani-j »

marcosdumay wrote: post #53
arun-mani-j wrote: post #27

While we are it, please don't conduct the meeting in MS Teams unless you are 100% sure that none of the attendees will use Firefox. (Brave also didn't work but refreshing multiple times worked, don't know, why MS wants to pinpoint Edge or Chrome for Teams)

Why? If it's for any technical reason, I've been using Teams in Firefox for many months already, and meetings run just fine.

Huh, I tried it last week and it said it doesn't support Firefox...

Re: Not Using Zoom

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Post by bigfishrunning »

lifeinthevoid wrote: post #57
stronglikedan wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it's reasonable that a SaaS should be able to train their AI on anything that is uploaded (if you're paying for the service). In fact, I don't think it's reasonable that they should even have access to view what you're uploading and sharing in private meetings. If neither of those were true, then they wouldn't have to worry about IP infringement.

Zoom End-to-End encryption should theoretically not allow Zoom to see any of the content no?

only if you trust them -- zoom has never had me submit a public key of any kind, so they're in control of all encryption parameters

Re: Not Using Zoom

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Post by KingOfCoders »

My problem as a coach is, everything else is bad. Google Meet video quality feels like the 90s, they optimize for traffic costs. MS Teams is not easily usable from a meeting URL, but quality is higher than Google Meet. Other offers are often unreliable or low quality.

When working with a trainer for my language/pronunciation I also found out that many solutions have abysmal sound quality, Zoom is best by far.

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