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PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

#41
post #31

Windows and its ecosystem have already become a telemetry monster; if you're fine with everything else, you ought to be fine with this. The linked Intel support page shows the simple instructions for opting out of the telemetry. Having said that, 2022 was already the year of the Linux desktop. Everything works. KDE gets better every week. Be the owner of your technology. Join us!

Is it confirmed that Intel's drivers on Linux aren't doing this too?

On libre drivers? No.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

#43
post #9

How can engineers working on this even look at themselves without being ashamed? For the record: I'm a graphics driver engineer myself.

The movie Thank You For Smoking about a tobacco lobbyist introduced a term for this.

The Yuppie Nuremberg Defense, I've got a mortgage to pay.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

#44
post #9

How can engineers working on this even look at themselves without being ashamed? For the record: I'm a graphics driver engineer myself.

Rationalization. I've seen developers I thought were reasonable doing much worse things with cellphones.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

#45
post #15

Telemetry by default should be illegal. They should be required to obtain owner permission.

The question here is not telemetry itself, but the infinite over-reach in what data is collected. Categorized websites have nothing to do with driver crashes or performance issues.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

#46
post #31

Windows and its ecosystem have already become a telemetry monster; if you're fine with everything else, you ought to be fine with this. The linked Intel support page shows the simple instructions for opting out of the telemetry. Having said that, 2022 was already the year of the Linux desktop. Everything works. KDE gets better every week. Be the owner of your technology. Join us!

KDE is great but also very, very buggy. I'm using it since 2016 and some bugs just won't go away and good luck with openeing a bug report - nobody will care. Especially multi monitor support just isn't good. Multi window support is also, by default, not as good as Windows does it. Sicne a few updates I'm getting some polciykit errors everytime I'm doing anything session related just because - I have not found a solution since then.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

#47
post #9

How can engineers working on this even look at themselves without being ashamed? For the record: I'm a graphics driver engineer myself.

Intel is suffering financially. This is the phase in which they, regretfully, cross all ethical boundaries for the sake of the company's bottom line.

If that's not the reason Nvidia is doing it too, why should we believe this is the reason Intel is doing it? Truth is they're just greedy and they're doing it because they can.

Edit for FirmwareBurner: I will, after you point out the part of my comment in which I claim that some F500 companies aren't greedy.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

#48
post #6
post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But thankfully GeForce Experience experience is totally optional, you can just select not to install when you install the driver Honestly it doesn't even have any critical feature https://www.nvidia.com/en-eu/geforce/geforce-experience/

Then you will not be able to access some of the features that is advertised for the hardware you bought (like shadowplay).

Well, for some features you might be able to. Based on around 20 seconds of googling it seems like GeForce Experience has some flags that'll start some things up directly (this may be how they're managed by the interface, I'm not sure). This should include shadowplay if you pass it the `-shadowplay` flag.

It's a bit worrying that it already requires this though, the whole thing is as close as it can be to DRM without obviously being DRM. And Nvidia is known to DRM their GPUs a lot.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

#49
post #31

Windows and its ecosystem have already become a telemetry monster; if you're fine with everything else, you ought to be fine with this. The linked Intel support page shows the simple instructions for opting out of the telemetry. Having said that, 2022 was already the year of the Linux desktop. Everything works. KDE gets better every week. Be the owner of your technology. Join us!

> Everything works.

...if you're a software engineer. If you need Photoshop or Word or another industry standard software then you don't count.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

#50
post #15

Telemetry by default should be illegal. They should be required to obtain owner permission.

And not just “permission” as a mandatory click-through, but freely-given permission. The permission may not be bundled with any other agreement, and the product must remain usable regardless of the telemetry settings.
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