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Compilation of claims/reports of LK-99 replication efforts

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Re: Compilation of claims/reports of LK-99 replication efforts

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I don't believe that China would let that sit tight. They will find a way to replicate in no time and start the engine of research full throttle. It's simply too good to be true. It would alleviate all their problems, from food to climate and energy.

Lead compounds generally aren't good eatin'.

Is that how this works? Bleach isn’t good eatin either, but table salt is just fine.

Edit: this is not sarcastic, I am not good at chemistry.

Re: Compilation of claims/reports of LK-99 replication efforts

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You're right, but also, nothing stops you from making your own ambient temperature superconductor and donate it to humanity.

I don't know how to make ambient temperature superconductors.

Re: Compilation of claims/reports of LK-99 replication efforts

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Where did you get that "(years!)" from? Is it just a conclusion you came to or are those actual facts. If so, I would love to see a source or a direction to where to look for it.

They first submitted a (rejected) paper to Nature about LK-99 in 2020, 3 years ago - that we know. The 99 in the name comes from the date the lab was formed, 1999. Some sources suggest that they have been studying this exact material since 1999, although I don't think that is confirmed. I think it's safe to assume that they would have been making it for at least 1-2 years before the rejected Nature paper, although po…

It is like playing the lottery or slot machine. You just keep trying one more time to see if you can hit the jackpot.

Re: Compilation of claims/reports of LK-99 replication efforts

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I know that's how patents work. That's the problem. I don't believe private entities wouldn't invest in research if it wasn't for patents. But I also don't care. If the private sector won't invest, let the public sector invest. Just don't keep innovations out of the hands of humanity.

Patents aren't just an incentive to invest in research: it's (moreso, even) an incentive to also disclose that research. So yes, in a world with patents, private entities would still engage in research, but what would they gain from disclosing the details of their process?

It is extremely rare that actionable, reproducible information comes out of the patent process. In general, they provide as little information as possible in order to satisfy the office, which is extremely overworked and (by design) rubber stamps everything that has basically the correct headings and formatting and isn't too similar to an existing patent.

Re: Compilation of claims/reports of LK-99 replication efforts

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They literally couldn’t get rich if they kept it out of everybody else’s hands.

Sure they could? That's a common way people get rich off of patents; make a product which uses your new innovation, sell that product, use the patent to prevent everyone else from using the innovation to make competing products.

I believe that's more or less the history of e-ink, among other things.

Re: Compilation of claims/reports of LK-99 replication efforts

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This man claims to have reproduced the same kind of effects with a simple ferromagnetic sample: https://nitter.net/VanGennepD/status/1688052003216261120

except he didnt reverse the poles of the magnet like multiple replication videos so he didnt really reproduce the same effect

Do you mean flipping the magnet over? If you scroll down he did that.

Re: Compilation of claims/reports of LK-99 replication efforts

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Why is it necessary for other labs to produce the material themselves to verify the claims? The original authors claim they produced some superconductive material, can't they simply offer their samples to other labs to verify?

If this material is real. And the mechanism producing it and materials like it could be understood starting process now would give head start on discovering materials that are like it.

It is pretty big pot to get part of if you discover way to refine the process, or find adjacent material with similar or better characteristics.

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The same investors and executives who bankrolled development since the original synthesis of the material back in 99 without any guarantee of a result? Which would create future incentives for a lot of people to invest their money into a lot of high risk, high reward science that takes years to do? Really hard to see that as something negative.

Keeping the benefits of possibly the most significant breakthrough in fundamental research this century out of the hands of humanity for 20 years. You find it hard to see that as something negative?

Re: Compilation of claims/reports of LK-99 replication efforts

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Where did you get that "(years!)" from? Is it just a conclusion you came to or are those actual facts. If so, I would love to see a source or a direction to where to look for it.

They first submitted a (rejected) paper to Nature about LK-99 in 2020, 3 years ago - that we know. The 99 in the name comes from the date the lab was formed, 1999. Some sources suggest that they have been studying this exact material since 1999, although I don't think that is confirmed. I think it's safe to assume that they would have been making it for at least 1-2 years before the rejected Nature paper, although po…

According to Wikipedia, Q Centre was founded in 2008. LK-99 is called LK-99 because it was discovered in 1999, but they stopped working on it for the bigger chunk of the 21st century.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LK-99#Compound_name

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