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Re: Melatonin as a treatment for food waste

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Post by corysama »

kelnos wrote: post #103
ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #86

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I think it was here, where I read that the optimal dosage for melatonin was 0.3 mg (300 micrograms). The smallest OTC dosage you can get, is 1mg, and they sell 10mg pills. When I switched from 10mg to 0.3mg, my sleep improved drastically . Also, I stopped getting those really weird dreams. But I don't like taking stuff, and ended up stopping completely, a long time ago.

I still use melatonin on occasion. When I first learned about it, I tried the 10mg version, and it never did anything for me. Years ago I read about 0.3mg being the correct dose, and gave that a try. I don't take it every night, but when I do, I sleep much better, and for longer without waking up. The main annoying thing about it is that you really need to take it a few hours before you go to sleep. So it's not somet…

I have a routine where I take 1mg dissolved under the tongue only if and when I’m at the point that I’m almost asleep, but it’s not happening. It’s often enough to nudge me over the edge. If I could conveniently find 0.5mg sublingual pills, I’d buy them. But, 15mg pills are easy to find and 1mg are rare…

Re: Melatonin as a treatment for food waste

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Post by vmladenov »

wnevets wrote: post #164
hunson_abadeer wrote: post #136

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> You can thank Mel Gibson and industry lobbying Why do we always need a boogeyman? Melatonin appears nearly harmless. Isn't it strange that we've grown so accustomed to so many things being restricted that we're taken aback by this sliver of medical self-determination, and we publish hard-hitting investigative pieces about how supposedly terrible that is? I get it that we maybe don't want to go back to the era of "p…

> Melatonin appears nearly harmless. Does it? We really haven't done enough science on it. > Melatonin has been linked to headaches, dizziness, nausea, stomach cramps, drowsiness, confusion or disorientation, irritability and mild anxiety, depression and tremors as well as abnormally low blood pressure. It can also interact with common medications and trigger allergies. [1] [1] https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/01/health/m…

I don’t mean to be flippant but aren’t those all symptoms of sleep deprivation? I’m wary of phrasing like “linked to” in science reporting because it falls short of asserting causality.

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Post by silverpepsi »

cobaltoxide wrote: post #166
a13n wrote: post #160

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I’ve found if I chew the pill into a fine powder and let it dissolve under your tongue, then I consistently fall asleep in 15-20 mins. Definitely makes sense that absorption is faster than simply taking orally.

You should be able to fall asleep in less than 15-20 minutes without using melatonin as well.

Hmm is that just a ridiculously unqualified statement, or do you really mean any old time any old place?

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Post by jrflowers »

amelius wrote: post #49
swozey wrote: post #45

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> chronic sleep disorders Wow. It's been a long time but I've definitely taken melatonin and if I felt any effects at all they definitely weren't strong if even noticable. Here (USA) Ambien is prescribed often for chronic sleep issues and that drug absolutely terrifies me. I've had friends addicted to it who wound up in a lot of criminal trouble for trespassing and wandering around beaches naked and things like that…

And what to think of this book, where the author literally persuades people to megadose on the hormone: https://www.amazon.com/Melatonin-Transform-Melatonin-resilie... It's mindboggling that this is freely available.

A chiropractor flirting with pseudoscience is disappointing. He should have stuck with evidence based things like treating fever with spinal alignments.

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Post by ghaff »

coffeebeqn wrote: post #178
cobaltoxide wrote: post #166

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You should be able to fall asleep in less than 15-20 minutes without using melatonin as well.

I can probably count on one hand during my adult life where that’s been the case. Is that really the reality for most?

I have no idea of the stats but I usually absent jet lag, otherwise being on a weird schedule, or having my mind spinning about something fall asleep quickly.

I do use melatonin but mostly only in conjunction with international travel.

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Post by maksimur »

webnrrd2k wrote: post #144
mewpmewp2 wrote: post #101

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Is there a source for the 0.3mg, because the most sleep supplements around here I've tried seem to have at least 0.5mg, or at least 1mg. They contain a mixture of other things as well, like magnesium, leonurus cadiaca, humulus lupulus. Melatonin only supplements mostly seem to start at around 2mg. There may be few of them at 1mg. I can't tell if I've personally had any effects from melatonin specifically though. Some…

Just a suggestion for everyone that takes melatonin -- get some liquid drops. I have a bottle that has 3mg per 30 drops, so I take 3 drops on my tongue an hour or two before I want to fall asleep. Liquid drops are the way to go. [I just posted this upthread, but reposting because I think it's a great way to go]

Depends on how frequent you use it. I had to throw a bottle after expiring because I take melatonin at most a few times per month to "recalibrate" my circadian rhythm.

Re: Melatonin as a treatment for food waste

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Post by ciconia »

Some low-tech (and IMO better) solutions for food waste:

* Buy food locally, support your local farmers.

* Grow your own vegetables (some are really easy: potatos, onions, garlic, zucchini, corn, beans, etc.). Even tomatos, peppers and eggplants are not that hard.

* Compost your food waste - put it back in your garden.

* Learn how to preserve food when there's an abundance.

* Also, learn to eat better.

I think it's a real shame that so much food waste ends up in landfill instead of being composted locally. If you compost your leftovers, you turn your waste into a resource, and use that to fertilize your garden.

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Post by Gare »

a13n wrote: post #160
kelnos wrote: post #103

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I still use melatonin on occasion. When I first learned about it, I tried the 10mg version, and it never did anything for me. Years ago I read about 0.3mg being the correct dose, and gave that a try. I don't take it every night, but when I do, I sleep much better, and for longer without waking up. The main annoying thing about it is that you really need to take it a few hours before you go to sleep. So it's not somet…

I’ve found if I chew the pill into a fine powder and let it dissolve under your tongue, then I consistently fall asleep in 15-20 mins. Definitely makes sense that absorption is faster than simply taking orally.

Yes, I'm buying it in spray form.

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Post by beebeepka »

coffeebeqn wrote: post #178
cobaltoxide wrote: post #166

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You should be able to fall asleep in less than 15-20 minutes without using melatonin as well.

I can probably count on one hand during my adult life where that’s been the case. Is that really the reality for most?

Same here. Only happens when I am literally exhausted from a week of 3 hour sleep. Don't even drink coffee. Been like this for as long as I can remember
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