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Winter temperatures above 35C in South America leave climatologists in disbelief

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Re: Winter temperatures above 35C in South America leave climatologists in disbelief

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Post by WeylandYutani »

pier25 wrote: post #48
retrac wrote: post #2

The current sea temperature anomaly is extreme. You can see it plotted since 1980 here: https://climatereanalyzer.org/clim/sst_daily/ The dark black line that diverges in March is this year to date.

These anomalies will become more common and more extreme over the coming decades.

It will happen just slow enough for people to get used to it and not panic. And then it will be the new normal. Humans can adapt to terrible situations.

Honestly I'll ride it out but I do feel bad for people with kids.

Re: Winter temperatures above 35C in South America leave climatologists in disbelief

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Post by higeorge13 »

SkeuomorphicBee wrote: post #28

Just an interesting first person anecdote: In the south of Brazil (close to Argentina) we normally have well defined seasons, but almost like clockwork we always had a famous "mini-summer of May", an unusually warm week in an otherwise cold mid-autumn. Well in the last decade the new concepts of "mini-summer of June" and now "mini-summer of July" started entering the popular parlance, as this abnormally warm weeks du…

Same in Greece for 10 days usually in January named after a bird (and a myth that this happens for this bird to stay with their eggs).

Re: Winter temperatures above 35C in South America leave climatologists in disbelief

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Post by TremendousJudge »

WeylandYutani wrote: post #101
pier25 wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These anomalies will become more common and more extreme over the coming decades.

It will happen just slow enough for people to get used to it and not panic. And then it will be the new normal. Humans can adapt to terrible situations. Honestly I'll ride it out but I do feel bad for people with kids.

>Honestly I'll ride it out but I do feel bad for people with kids.

Do you live near the coast? If so, "riding it out", might involve moving inland and paying insane property prices.

Re: Winter temperatures above 35C in South America leave climatologists in disbelief

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Post by ben_w »

deschutes wrote: post #43
ben_w wrote: post #18

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Wasn’t that about 146 million tons of water? It’s a lot in one go, but the atmosphere has about 2.5% water vapour, which is a total of ~ 1.3e17 kg.

Per https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37001387 it's not just mass but elevation. The eruption was significant in the upper atmosphere.

Thanks for the link. Surprising, as all new (to me) knowledge is.

Re: Winter temperatures above 35C in South America leave climatologists in disbelief

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Post by TremendousJudge »

SkeuomorphicBee wrote: post #28

Just an interesting first person anecdote: In the south of Brazil (close to Argentina) we normally have well defined seasons, but almost like clockwork we always had a famous "mini-summer of May", an unusually warm week in an otherwise cold mid-autumn. Well in the last decade the new concepts of "mini-summer of June" and now "mini-summer of July" started entering the popular parlance, as this abnormally warm weeks du…

Veranillo de San Juan has been a thing since forever[0], and it usually was at the end of June. However, people have taken to call any hot spell this way, even if it's nowhere near St. John's date (June 24th). My anecdotal observations are similar to yours.

[0] It even has its own (poorly sourced) wikipedia article: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veranito_de_San_Juan

Re: Winter temperatures above 35C in South America leave climatologists in disbelief

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Post by hn_throwaway_99 »

WeylandYutani wrote: post #101
pier25 wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These anomalies will become more common and more extreme over the coming decades.

It will happen just slow enough for people to get used to it and not panic. And then it will be the new normal. Humans can adapt to terrible situations. Honestly I'll ride it out but I do feel bad for people with kids.

You can't possibly be from the Southwestern US. We're used to particularly brutal summers here, but this year has just been insane, unlike anything I've ever experienced (and, of course, we've had many "record breaking years" over the past 10-20 years). I already have plans to move north. Phoenix has been one of the fastest growing cities in the US - I definitely believe a lot of people are going to think twice about moving there now.

There are parts of the world that are already hitting wet-bulb temperatures that are lethal to humans. And this is all just the beginning.

Re: Winter temperatures above 35C in South America leave climatologists in disbelief

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Post by [deleted] »

prepend wrote: post #84
revscat wrote: post #54

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Starvation and war. And hubris, of course. Same as every other time human civilizations have collapsed.

Has there ever been a global civilization collapse? We seem a bit unprecedented. I think that 50 years from now the global average life expectancy will be greater than now. Certainly not decades less than today’s average. Perfectly happy to wager money through augur or some other wonky long bet system as this seems like a total easy win.

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Re: Winter temperatures above 35C in South America leave climatologists in disbelief

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Post by mrguyorama »

wing-_-nuts wrote: post #70
revscat wrote: post #26

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The lifespan of everyone reading this has decreased by several decades.

Hyperbole doesn't help anyone. Are things worse than what the IPCC is letting on? Absolutely, yes, but saying everyone's gona die from it is ridiculous. Most reading this will merely be inconvenienced. Some will lose houses to wildfires or hurricanes, but most will swealter a bit more than they would have otherwise. The only people who really have to worry are those in the tropics living with unreliable power grids a…

> Most reading this will merely be inconvenienced.

Except:

>The only people who really have to worry are those in the tropics living with unreliable power grids and no ac.

Which is where millions of people attempting to migrate to countries where living outside isn't a death sentence, and how do you think that will go after the amount of hatred we have seen for the comparatively minimal migration we have currently experienced?

Re: Winter temperatures above 35C in South America leave climatologists in disbelief

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Post by mrguyorama »

WA wrote: post #6
mistrial9 wrote: post #5

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ok - but the 400 page report does not get promoted, this broadcast TV piece does..

Yeah but this kind of clickbait actively destroys trust in climate science, because the lunatics think that they get sold a hoax. And actually, the kind of writing is extremely sketchy.

Ah yes, climate deniers just haven't been talked to right!

Rather then them choosing to consume a media diet 100% filled with "liberal hoaxes THEY don't want YOU to know about!!!!!"

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