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Google’s Plan to DRM the Web Goes Against Everything Google Once Stood For

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Re: Google’s Plan to DRM the Web Goes Against Everything Google Once Stood For

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"Chrome - browsers" And the money is coming from where? Chrome exists mostly, so the ad buisness gets more data and they can influence the direction of the web. Seperate that and there will be no more chrome as there is no other source of income. (Except maybe a little bit from ChromeOS). Otherwise I get it, it is mostly politics to threaten google to reach this.: "It's quite likely to make Google dump this proposal,…

Mozilla makes money with Firefox. Brave does with brave. It is not impossible that Chrome could. ChromeOS, default search engine, integrated VPN offering, ... The browser has a monopoly market share, income would be huge fast.

Mozilla feeds from Googles hands to ensure an awesome pay for their execs

Re: Google’s Plan to DRM the Web Goes Against Everything Google Once Stood For

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Google used to be cool and now it’s not. Wonder which companies of today will end up completing the cycle tomorrow?

Are there any cool companies left? I think consumers and employees have become more cynical. - OpenAI is already 'evil'. - Apple has staying power but I still wouldn't consider it cool anymore. - Likewise Tesla.

What did OpenAI do? I know they refused to share their proprietary model even though they're called "Open", is this what you're referring to?

Re: Google’s Plan to DRM the Web Goes Against Everything Google Once Stood For

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Proton and Bitlocker and that MS SHIT always creeped me out. I work in IT so we have to use it but on an ideological level "Trusted computing" is weird. Feels like they want a console future where it is locked down af

Ding ding ding, that is the correct endgame the governments want. And it would have been achieved a long time ago if the FOSS movement did not appear. Unfortunately, all it did was postpone the inevitable, because most people prefer comfort over freedom.

Re: Google’s Plan to DRM the Web Goes Against Everything Google Once Stood For

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Cloud would be a huge profit maker as YouTube, search, ads would all then pay cloud for hosting. And they’d have no where else to go.

Further, selling GCP to AWS is not how we "break down monopolies".

The FTC would never allow that anyway.

Re: Google’s Plan to DRM the Web Goes Against Everything Google Once Stood For

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Let's not forget maps, where they arbitrarily decide to show you a shop/hotel/restaurant 5km away when there is one 200m away.

I am kind of surprised none of the navigation apps divert your course slightly to pass in front of a large store or something yet. It could even announce the place. "On your right is such and such store where using the code Maps will give you a 10 percent discount."

You could actually package this up in a way that people would find palatable.

What if maps only took you to places where you have a loyalty card - or the places that currently have discounts on things in your shopping list.

Give it the right marketing spin and people would love it.

Re: Google’s Plan to DRM the Web Goes Against Everything Google Once Stood For

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Further, selling GCP to AWS is not how we "break down monopolies".

as long you can rent rack full of servers and use it easily there is not that kind monopoly.

The logistics at scale can't just be waved away like that; current providers would have at least a 10 year moat at scale to a new competitor even if they did nothing. And you can bet if a new company came along that was a serious threat the current players wouldn't sit idly by.

Re: Google’s Plan to DRM the Web Goes Against Everything Google Once Stood For

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"Chrome - browsers" And the money is coming from where? Chrome exists mostly, so the ad buisness gets more data and they can influence the direction of the web. Seperate that and there will be no more chrome as there is no other source of income. (Except maybe a little bit from ChromeOS). Otherwise I get it, it is mostly politics to threaten google to reach this.: "It's quite likely to make Google dump this proposal,…

Money for developing chrome is not an issue. Google search could pay chrome to be the primary search engine just like they pay mozilla. Microsoft could fund chromium based on their use in Edge. Etc…

I guess you have no idea how much money it costs to develop something like Chrome, especially at Google's salary.

Re: Google’s Plan to DRM the Web Goes Against Everything Google Once Stood For

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It seems Everyone is taking for granted the claim that this is about DRM. The claim is that websites (not Google) will use this signal to allow or deny access but this is already possible with various means. Google or any other Browser vendor do not have a say on how websites use or misuse features. > There is a tension between utility for anti-fraud use cases requiring deterministic verdicts and high coverage, and t…

> Google or any other Browser vendor do not have a say on how websites use or misuse features. Seriously? Would you give the kiddies sharp knives and loaded guns, and then be shocked when someone is injured? If we let this become available, we will all have to live with the consequences. We can see clearly what those consequences will be. Let's not be stupid.

This overboard generalizations is what make me sure that everyone is just gut-reacting. Have you read the actual proposal (not an article about it)?

In your knife-analogy, Google is producing sharp knifes for the cooks, not the children. the DRM crowd here is saying but what if the Cook uses the knife the attack the restaurant clients? Do you know of anyone seriously discussing that we should stop all production of knifes because someone might give one to a child? SO yes I agree, let's not be stupid.

Re: Google’s Plan to DRM the Web Goes Against Everything Google Once Stood For

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I find it staggering that so few media outlets have picked this story up. TechCrunch spends 80% of its time farming Elon Musk stories but won't lift a hand to promote a good fight. Are these news companies so entangled in the corporate world they can't risk taking a stand because it risks them losing access to real-time news? I don't really understand it so I am kind of guessing, but it is nonetheless strange.

A lot of tech media outlets are not much more than extension of tech companies' PR departments. This has been very obvious especially in videogame "journalism" for a while (refusal to cover negative stories and more importantly follow up on them, or blatantly using article templates provided in advance by the companies), but if you pay attention, it is quite widespread.
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