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Google’s Plan to DRM the Web Goes Against Everything Google Once Stood For

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As I understand it, Google wants to add some signal to http requests which tell the server that the user is using a system made from some specific software. For example an unaltered stock Android phone.

What would be the one-sentence technical explanation of how Google wants to achieve this?

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Google have long been a trojan horse for corporate and governmental interests. This was clear with the approach they took with rss - make a fantastic product to draw in lots of users, then kill it as rss disintermediated the web, with little scope for google to direct you to where they want you to go.

I suppose they told us what they are when they scrapped their "don't be evil" motto.

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Google used to be cool and now it’s not. Wonder which companies of today will end up completing the cycle tomorrow?

> You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain

Re: Google’s Plan to DRM the Web Goes Against Everything Google Once Stood For

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The article applies this terrific Doctrow quote about Secure Computing to WEI:

  > Should your computer be able to be compelled to tell the truth, even when you would prefer that it lie on your behalf? Should there be a facility in your computer that you can’t control that other people can remotely trigger?
It is an apt application of the quote, and a fundamental question that is likely based on culture and each persons or organizations past experience with abusive overlords. I personally opposed it.

Re: Google’s Plan to DRM the Web Goes Against Everything Google Once Stood For

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Google used to be cool and now it’s not. Wonder which companies of today will end up completing the cycle tomorrow?

Google was made possible by a platform shift: From desktop apps to websites.

First they positioned themselves very early in the web user experience: After the user turned on their Dell computer, booted Windows and started Internet Explorer, the next step was to use Google.

Then they moved one step closer to the user by building their own browser: Chrome

Then they moved even closer to the user by building their own OS: Android

Then they moved even closer to the user by building their own computer: The Pixel Phone

The question is what the next platform shift could be. And if the big players will miss it so that a new player can emerge. And if there will be a new player which is as smart and driven as the Google founders.

Re: Google’s Plan to DRM the Web Goes Against Everything Google Once Stood For

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I lived in china and put effort into de-googling my phone. Now I’m back in the open world and seems need do all over again.

Must be a biz opp to run a proxy that strips everything google from pages and web communications. I would pay a few $/month to not be farmed without consent.

Re: Google’s Plan to DRM the Web Goes Against Everything Google Once Stood For

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As I understand it, Google wants to add some signal to http requests which tell the server that the user is using a system made from some specific software. For example an unaltered stock Android phone. What would be the one-sentence technical explanation of how Google wants to achieve this?

Every request first goes through "trusted attesters" (read: Google and pretty much Google alone) along with some information about your device (hardware information, browser data, executable hash, etc) for them to sign it and decide whether or not you're legit. See the Play Integrity API on Android for similar implementations.
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