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Senate votes to let people who’ve used marijuana work at intelligence agencies

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Re: Senate votes to let people who’ve used marijuana work at intelligence agencies

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Post by moomoo11 »

cyberax wrote: post #166
antisyzygy wrote: post #113

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I can tell you right now if any job required a drug test, I wouldn't work there. I use cannabis sometimes but it's more the principal of it. It's a privacy violation and positive results don't actually mean you're intoxicated on the job. What people do in their free time is nobodies business so long as it's not harming other people.

> I can tell you right now if any job required a drug test, I wouldn't work there. Airline pilots? People operating dangerous machinery?

Sure. Not jobs for me. I wouldn’t do it either out of principle. Someone else can.

Re: Senate votes to let people who’ve used marijuana work at intelligence agencies

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Post by aswanson »

CameronNemo wrote: post #94
drewcoo wrote: post #63

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Nixon started the "war on drugs." About marijuana activists, he said: > I want a Goddamn strong statement on marijuana, I mean one that just tears the ass out of them. You know, its a funny thing, every one of the bastards that are out for legalizing marijuana is Jewish.

Wait... I'm Jewish?

Stay kosher, bro.

Re: Senate votes to let people who’ve used marijuana work at intelligence agencies

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Post by astrange »

monocasa wrote: post #161
astrange wrote: post #142

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No, we're not in a war. Thanks Biden. What's your counterfactual?

Proxy wars are still wars.

Tell that to all our infantry who aren't in any danger. Selling used military equipment is not being at war.

Re: Senate votes to let people who’ve used marijuana work at intelligence agencies

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Post by monksy »

fragmede wrote: post #101
monksy wrote: post #37

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One of the questions they ask is on alcohol (also with gambling): Have you ever suffered financial consequences as a result of your drinking. Being super honest I answered: Yes, I spend more money than I plan on when going out frequently. (Limiting to 20$ of drinks, and it ends up being 25..this was more than a decade ago and I was fresh out of school)

Financial consequences is so vague. Of course I suffered "financial consequences", I had to give them money in exchange for my drink in the first place! Of course they mean severe repercussions, but the way it's worded it, I just had to say yes.

yep, I think they're looking for "have you ever drank yourself homeless where you were doing zjs in the alley for a shot of malort"

Re: Senate votes to let people who’ve used marijuana work at intelligence agencies

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Post by astrange »

solardev wrote: post #168
astrange wrote: post #145

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Who is pointing the CIA and NRO at you?

Why specifically them? The article mentions the NSA as well, which has done its fair share of domestic spying. As a taxpayer, it doesn't really matter to me how those lines are drawn, how budget/intel/personnel flow between them, what they call a mass surveillance program in any given decade, etc. In my short life, they've failed to prevent an attack, failed to prevent two major wars of false pretenses, failed to for…

> failed to foresee, much less prevent, a major Russian invasion...

They absolutely did foresee it, we spent months announcing everything Russia was going to do before they did it. It's actually a brand new strategy Biden tried; usually we'd keep everything to ourself to protect how we got the info.

But it didn't prevent it because nothing would have except assassinating Putin. That would be pretty destabilizing too!

Re: Senate votes to let people who’ve used marijuana work at intelligence agencies

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Post by solardev »

lesuorac wrote: post #163
bill_joy_fanboy wrote: post #132

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The United States is constantly at war. If spying prevents war, it's not working. LOL...

You may want to look up WW1 & WW2 or even Ukraine ... The US isn't in war. No declarations have been made. No draft is required. No war shortages exist.

Oh, man, is this what the future looks like? We provide the weapons, get other countries to do the fighting, wash our hands clean of the whole thing and call our global adventures not-wars as long as we can still buy gas and toilet paper? Somehow, this euphemistic imperialism of proxy wars feels even sketchier... at least the old empires were honest about their intent.

Today it's Ukraine, tomorrow Taiwan, and then what, back to the Koreas and the Middle East? Our constant involvement in cyclical non-wars sure doesn't feel the same as "peace" to me. Maybe that word just doesn't mean what I think it does anymore. Or maybe we have our tentacles in so many places that warmaking and peacemaking have become indistinguishable.

I guess as long as it's not Americans in body bags, we're in the clear? The world is our mercenary. But even that won't last long, I'm willing to bet. The world's not getting any stabler, and our competitors aren't just sitting idle.

Re: Senate votes to let people who’ve used marijuana work at intelligence agencies

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Post by monocasa »

astrange wrote: post #154
throwaway104782 wrote: post #150

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lmfaooo, "weapons of mass destruction" anybody?

US intelligence did not support Bush's wars, which is why they had to go and make up new intelligence in order to start them.

They did. The CIA in their NIE rated high confidence in the continued existence of Iraq's WMD program. 'High confidence' is intel speak for 'confident enough to go to war over'.

https://www.scribd.com/doc/259216899/Iraq-October-2002-NIE-o...

Re: Senate votes to let people who’ve used marijuana work at intelligence agencies

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Post by solardev »

astrange wrote: post #174
monocasa wrote: post #161

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Proxy wars are still wars.

Tell that to all our infantry who aren't in any danger. Selling used military equipment is not being at war.

US weapons, US intel, US alliances and organizations... I doubt Russia looks at it and thinks "Oh, OK, the US is totally not involved. They're our friends!"

Even when we're not actively sending troops, we're busy making enemies for the next war...

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