As a macOS user was a fan of the initial version. Then Microsoft went into its Microsoft ways. Office toolbar, but you can hide it. Then more bing overrides on the new tab but you could adjust that. Finally came the bing icon. While I get I’m using a “free” tool, I wish there was more variation (particularly for work) in just getting a barebones browser. I was rooting for them as they implemented a couple of features that got them similar to Firefox DevTools, but them adding more and more bloat default, I moved to arc. Really wish safari would beef its dev tools by removing the App Store requirement, but alas. Seems devs don’t want to touch Firefox at the level to update their extensions comparable to chromium browsers.
Microsoft is trying too hard with Edge
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Re: Microsoft is trying too hard with Edge
#52> It even overtook Safari as the second-most-popular browser in the world behind Chrome. [...] Despite running on Chromium, the same engine as Chrome, it has a lot of features even Chrome lacks, like collections and shopping features that can help you save money. And, of course, there's the recent rise of Bing Chat. There's a reason why I use it every day on some of the best laptops I review Then later, > Microsoft n…
That first quote... those are not the things I want from a browser. No, I don't want you to sell me stuff. No, I don't want to see your "collections". No, I don't want your chat. I want you to show me the pages I want to view. I'll tell you what they are; I don't want you to show me stuff that you think I want.
Collections are a feature were you can collect pages together (not sure how that is helpful, but I am sure somebodies workflow is helped by them). Chat is Bing chat, aka ChatGPT 4 with internet search.
I can assure you that it will quite happily show you any sites you want, though Google will attempt to get you to install Chrome.
Re: Microsoft is trying too hard with Edge
#53I keep hearing "Edge actually isn't bad anymore", but as long as Microsoft continues to try and jam it down my throat at any conceivable opportunity, I will continue to refuse to even consider it. Very few things piss me off more than the other Microsoft products that feel the need to override my default browser and open pages in Edge instead. And on top of that, last time something launched Edge instead of Firefox,…
> Very few things piss me off more than the other Microsoft products that feel the need to override my default browser
Google is also very persistent about this--any time you use Gmail in a non-Chrome browser, they pop up alerts to try to convince you to use Chrome instead.
Re: Microsoft is trying too hard with Edge
#54I keep hearing "Edge actually isn't bad anymore", but as long as Microsoft continues to try and jam it down my throat at any conceivable opportunity, I will continue to refuse to even consider it. Very few things piss me off more than the other Microsoft products that feel the need to override my default browser and open pages in Edge instead. And on top of that, last time something launched Edge instead of Firefox,…
That’s a Microsoft special. A big, stupid splash page which requires you to wait for it to load, and then the only option to make it go away is to click. (You can’t hit escape, for instance.) Microsoft does this in so many of their products, it must be baked into the company somehow. Often, the screen will come up indefinitely, no matter how many times you click “don’t show me this again.” I can only imagine that the…
i had this exact thing happen yesterday. the task manager refuses to kill edge
Re: Microsoft is trying too hard with Edge
#55I keep hearing "Edge actually isn't bad anymore", but as long as Microsoft continues to try and jam it down my throat at any conceivable opportunity, I will continue to refuse to even consider it. Very few things piss me off more than the other Microsoft products that feel the need to override my default browser and open pages in Edge instead. And on top of that, last time something launched Edge instead of Firefox,…
> I keep hearing "Edge actually isn't bad anymore"
Whenever I said that in the past it was because it was a competent, nicely implemented alternative to Chrome. A real surprise.
Then they lost their fucking minds, same with Windows, and well... I don't say that anymore.
Re: Microsoft is trying too hard with Edge
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
> No we have to use their browser too. I switched my mother-in-law (nearly 70 years old) to a Chromebook and I made my SO switch her little PME from Windows to Ubuntu more than a year ago and she has zero issue. As for the rest of my family, they kept calling me on the phone over the years with Windows issue and... I made them all buy Mac computers. Life is better without Microsoft.
PME?
Probably a French slip up, it mean 'Petites and Moyennes Entreprises' (small and medium companies) and in France is a colloquialism that doesn't really have an English translation? I'd say 'small business', but basically it mean it's a company with more than 2 millions and less than 50 millions revenue (I think you also have an upper and lower limit of workers like two or three hundreds, but the real limits are revenue, especially in our hardware/software fields)
Re: Microsoft is trying too hard with Edge
#57Yes and with Bing too. I own some stock so have incentive to root for them, but the products are frankly just meh. Bing Chat is cool but worse than ChatGPT. Edge is cool but worse than Firefox. And Bing is cool but worse than Google.
I'll be honest. I use bing. Found myself going to google less and less since ChatGPT filled most of the void.
Yes I have the same, but I’ve had a few times that Bing couldn’t find what Google could, so I switched mostly back. Also the fact that you can accidentally scroll too far and end up in the Bing Chat and the Bing homepage news (read: crap) don’t really help.
Re: Microsoft is trying too hard with Edge
#58I keep hearing "Edge actually isn't bad anymore", but as long as Microsoft continues to try and jam it down my throat at any conceivable opportunity, I will continue to refuse to even consider it. Very few things piss me off more than the other Microsoft products that feel the need to override my default browser and open pages in Edge instead. And on top of that, last time something launched Edge instead of Firefox,…
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Re: Microsoft is trying too hard with Edge
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can we enforce it on all OS to allow changing default apps? Thinking of Safari on iOS…
You've been able to change the default browser on iOS for quite a while now. The underlying browser engine is the same, but non-technical users don't care and just want to sync bookmarks/passwords from Chrome/Firefox.
Well then that's not changing the browser then is it?
It's merely changing the 'window dressing' or facade that is the 'chrome' around the iOS web rendering engine.
Re: Microsoft is trying too hard with Edge
#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
PME?
Probably a French slip up, it mean 'Petites and Moyennes Entreprises' (small and medium companies) and in France is a colloquialism that doesn't really have an English translation? I'd say 'small business', but basically it mean it's a company with more than 2 millions and less than 50 millions revenue (I think you also have an upper and lower limit of workers like two or three hundreds, but the real limits are reven…
"SME"? "Small to Medium Enterprise".
Seems almost as close as you could get.