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Microsoft is trying too hard with Edge
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Re: Microsoft is trying too hard with Edge
#32Well I was tired of complaining about it again and again. If Windows refuses to respect me as a user, I refuse to use Windows. Very happy to be on ZorinOS and other Linux distros now.
They're free and they don't waste my time.
Re: Microsoft is trying too hard with Edge
#33Maybe someone should dig out the EU browser bundling anti-trust case Microsoft lost in the early 2000s and enforce it.
Can we enforce it on all OS to allow changing default apps? Thinking of Safari on iOS…
Re: Microsoft is trying too hard with Edge
#34Maybe complain about the browser separately from complaining about the marketing techniques.
Edge has gotten better.
And
When they incorporated GPT, it was pretty cool. It already seems old now, just a few weeks later, but at the time, remember people were freaking out how great ChatGPT was, it seemed incredible. We've had a few weeks to cool off and start critiquing it. But when GPT was incorporated into Edge, edge adoption shot up, I think I saw stat that it was 100 million users. I even showed wife (non-tech) how to put in a few prompts and it would generate some letter she needed to write. It did seem incredible.
So just stepping back, Edge has incrementally improved, then they incorporated a big new feature "GPT", and adoption took off. ---> So the increased users was not just by marketing, and anti-trust practices, and splash screens.
Re: Microsoft is trying too hard with Edge
#35I keep hearing "Edge actually isn't bad anymore", but as long as Microsoft continues to try and jam it down my throat at any conceivable opportunity, I will continue to refuse to even consider it. Very few things piss me off more than the other Microsoft products that feel the need to override my default browser and open pages in Edge instead. And on top of that, last time something launched Edge instead of Firefox,…
I echo your concerns, and add that I find it slightly humorous Edge is also being offered on Linux. I've spent hours working to remove it from Windows; why would I willingly install it?
Internet Explorer 5 also had a few UNIX releases.
Re: Microsoft is trying too hard with Edge
#36I can agree with this. Everywhere you look in windows you have Microsoft screaming EDGE. It's not enough to use their OS, Email client, Office apps, and gaming system. No we have to use their browser too.
That's true. I switched to Linux Mint on my Latitude E7450 and the experience so far has been great. The only downside is that I cannot hibernate the system, which means I have to shut down every damn time.
Throwing this out there, perhaps you've tried already, but maybe it'd help. Installing TLP?
Re: Microsoft is trying too hard with Edge
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
as far as i can tell Teams will not open links in the default browser it's hard coded to edge://
The linux client is hard coded to whatever it's builting browser is (some chromium bit?) It's a right pain as it means when I get an authentication popup I can't use my integrated password manager like I can with say Slack's authentication popups. (yes I know that integrating browsers with pw managers are bad)
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Re: Microsoft is trying too hard with Edge
#38Yes and with Bing too. I own some stock so have incentive to root for them, but the products are frankly just meh. Bing Chat is cool but worse than ChatGPT. Edge is cool but worse than Firefox. And Bing is cool but worse than Google.
I'll be honest. I use bing. Found myself going to google less and less since ChatGPT filled most of the void.
Re: Microsoft is trying too hard with Edge
#39I keep hearing "Edge actually isn't bad anymore", but as long as Microsoft continues to try and jam it down my throat at any conceivable opportunity, I will continue to refuse to even consider it. Very few things piss me off more than the other Microsoft products that feel the need to override my default browser and open pages in Edge instead. And on top of that, last time something launched Edge instead of Firefox,…
I echo your concerns, and add that I find it slightly humorous Edge is also being offered on Linux. I've spent hours working to remove it from Windows; why would I willingly install it?
> I echo your concerns, and add that I find it slightly humorous Edge is also being offered on Linux. I've spent hours working to remove it from Windows; why would I willingly install it?
because you have a choice :) I installed it on Fedora from flathub iirc
Re: Microsoft is trying too hard with Edge
#40edge is just a front-end using the googel Big Tech web engine from google. If they customize the web engine, it's only a posture to hide the fact that they were unable to code their own in spite of their billions. That said, they are big tech, they are all and the same.
Safari also forked from Chrome. Not just MS Edge.
There was a joint collaboration between a lot of companies on 'chromium' (wasn't it webkit before?) and then that relationship soured and each forked it to their own browser. (I think Apple forked it first). It wasn't like the 'engine' was just some small open source project with beautiful code that MS stole.
I also think you are little conflating the front end renderer, from 'web engine'. MS doesn't use the Google search engine.
Edit>> Had order wrong. Apple and Google were working together on WebKit. But Google forked off first (blink). Safari continued on with WebKit. Google eventually re-branded Chromium, then MS Edge used Chromium. The point being, this was not a small indie open source project that MS stole as some anti-MS comments kind of hint at. All 3 big players were putting engineering time into these engines. This cartoon diagram might help. Wiki has a more detailed one.
https://twitter.com/vladquant/status/1492181669788356611/pho...